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neocloud9
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:24 am
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Yeah, I was really disappointed with the way this omnibus "ended." Good thing the light novels are getting re-published.
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darkchibi07
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:27 am
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Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the manga got canceled in Japan? Was it due to lack of popularity or something?
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Clueless313
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:32 am
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darkchibi07 wrote: | Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the manga got canceled in Japan? Was it due to lack of popularity or something? |
It was something about the author being sick or some other such nonsense.
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JohnnySake
Joined: 22 May 2008
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Location: Auburn Hills, MI
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:12 am
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neocloud9 wrote: | Yeah, I was really disappointed with the way this omnibus "ended." |
Yes, it is disappointing but at the time that was the end of that chapter, or volume with more to follow. But none ever did, which is a shame. I still appreciate Seven Seas releasing the Omnibus with that extra content. Thanks guys!
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pachy_boy
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:02 pm
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Quote: | Strawberry Panic! feels like one cliche built on atop another which almost gives it the effect of being a parody of the very genre it personifies. |
A parody is technically what it is--just ask Erica Friedman of Okazu. Of course, that's not a criticism.
Quote: | That said, while it's nice having a story completely focused on open female affection, emotional and physical, the complete lack of men in either presence or mention does take away from the effect just a tad. |
Just as it's a parody, the point of Strawberry Panic is that it's also a fantasy, even more so than Maria Watches Over Us. It's a Yuri fantasy, for those who feel that the presence of men takes away the entertainment value and the focus on girl/girl romance, or at least that's my own impression. That's basically Strawberry Panic's purpose, being the ultimate Yuri schoolgirl fantasy series, and so long as one isn't expecting an emotional masterpiece I also feel that it's done well.
Just one thing about the manga version that I couldn't not roll my eyes at. Nagisa, Hikari and all those girls are atop the tower. Nagisa loses her balance, falls over, and hangs onto the ledge by her fingers. Hikari stands there agape in fear of Nagisa's situation. You can't not laugh when the manga-ka shows in clear view of Hikari standing atop the ledge, just a couple inches away from where Nagisa is hanging, and yet suggest there's no way Hikari could possibly reach to grab a hold of Nagisa's arm
Other than that, enjoyed this manga just like I loved the Anime, and am looking forward to Seven Seas releasing the complete novel omnibus.
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adam_omega
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:20 pm
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Clueless313 wrote: |
darkchibi07 wrote: | Out of curiosity, does anyone know why the manga got canceled in Japan? Was it due to lack of popularity or something? |
It was something about the author being sick or some other such nonsense. |
The artist had a nervous breakdown, if the rumors are to be believed. There was talk of the series continuing (possibly with a new artist), but it never happened.
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jenthehen
Joined: 23 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:01 pm
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Isn't the novel incomplete (in English) as well? I have the first two volumes, but the third was never released by Seven Seas in English as far as I know ... which made me really sad, since I wanted to know how the story concluded.
In the novels, they make a point of discussing how these girls are in this school cut off from society in order for them to learn in a better environment or something ... which at least explains the total lack of men. Also in the anime version (and maybe also the novel) the one character is supposedly engaged (pre-arranged marriage) to a man, so that is one small acknowledgment of men!
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pachy_boy
Joined: 09 Mar 2006
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:37 pm
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jenthehen wrote: | Isn't the novel incomplete (in English) as well? I have the first two volumes, but the third was never released by Seven Seas in English as far as I know ... which made me really sad, since I wanted to know how the story concluded. |
The omnibus for all three novels are coming out next year!
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vashfanatic
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:24 am
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Quote: | It comes across that these girls are this close purely in habitual absence of men, not in choice over or overwhelming affection for an individual in particular. Where's the hesitation, the suspense, the sprinkling of taboo? While this isn't to say the story needs male characters to fill this purpose, the lack of believability of having every girl pining over one another still feels rather empty despite the pleasantries of an all-accepting social culture. |
And this is why I honestly couldn't get into the series at all. I mean, MariMite has a similar all-girl school, everyone-is-cool-with-this premise, but it acknowledges the existence of boys, and there's a real diversity among the female relationships (some romantic, some BFFs, some familial). Strawberry Panic was just... girls falling over each other with no thought of anything beyond it. Maybe it's supposed to be parody, but if so it wasn't very funny. My favorite yuri tends to be the type that really examines the relationships between women and social understanding of how that should work.
So maybe I'm just too much of a snob to appreciate Strawberry Panic.
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darkchibi07
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:40 am
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Is this an example of what's considered a "stealth parody" because I seriously think the author was taking this seriously when she was working on this.
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pachy_boy
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:14 am
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vashfanatic wrote: | Maybe it's supposed to be parody, but if so it wasn't very funny. |
As far as I understand, it's a parody without it so much as being written as directly a comedy.
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Pocky Monster
Joined: 03 Aug 2008
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 4:51 pm
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darkchibi07 wrote: | Is this an example of what's considered a "stealth parody" because I seriously think the author was taking this seriously when she was working on this. |
It's most definitely a stealth parody in my opinion, which is part of why I enjoy this series so much.
That being said, I really liked the manga and light novel versions & plan to buy the manga omnibus edition when I have the time/money. The cover is quite adorable~
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TheRoyalFamily
Joined: 16 Apr 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:45 pm
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Remember when this was supposed to be the flagship of the Strawberry line? And then it didn't come out for months after the start of said line? Fun times. I bought the first volume, but wasn't able to get the second one.
I was fine with the uncompleted-story angle. From what I gathered from perusing the omnibus in the store, there's at least a volume end to it. Obviously not closure, but I'd deal.
But when I read this:
Quote: | Adding to the teasing effect of the story's steamier interactions, the book ends just before they begin a competition that sees rivals send temptresses to seduce other players. |
I rage.
And I'm not going to read the novels, since what's the point of reading a comic without pictures? Especially one like this.
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adam_omega
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:38 pm
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TheRoyalFamily wrote: | Remember when this was supposed to be the flagship of the Strawberry line? And then it didn't come out for months after the start of said line? Fun times. I bought the first volume, but wasn't able to get the second one. |
If I remember correctly, Strawberry Panic's manga release date was pushed back to December 2007 because the novel had been delayed from it's earlier March 2007 date due to a lack of bookstore support. With us switching distribution to Tor/Macmillan that coming March 2008, we decided to move the novel to March 2008 and have the manga to be a prelude to it by coming out December 2007 for the Christmas season.
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Levitz9
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:00 am
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Pocky Monster wrote: |
darkchibi07 wrote: | Is this an example of what's considered a "stealth parody" because I seriously think the author was taking this seriously when she was working on this. |
It's most definitely a stealth parody in my opinion, which is part of why I enjoy this series so much.
That being said, I really liked the manga and light novel versions & plan to buy the manga omnibus edition when I have the time/money. The cover is quite adorable~ |
I read on TV Tropes that the creator him(her?)self admitted to considering SP a little trashy. *shrug*
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