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Fronzel
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I wonder if it was tough doing a write-up of a series that's almost universally been seen by everybody.
I kind of like how Trigun has certain shonen anime conventions like an aimless journey around a silly, colorful world and encounters with silly, colorful enemies but it subverts the "quest to be the best" by having Vash start the series with superhuman skill that doesn't really help him be happy because all it's good for is violence. |
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Animerican14
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Wait... this is the exact same dub that Geneon originally released, correct? And this was actually one of Bosch's first anime roles, right? Because if so, by this point, I don't think he's really established himself in alot of voice-acting, has he....? Sorry, it's probably just me, but the way its worded here makes it sound like that this is simply the latest "bold young hero" to get played by Bosch. Anyway... this was one of the first anime that I've ever seen to completion, and that must've been 5-6 years ago. Watched every episode dubbed on the dvd, can't remember anything about the sub. Bosch's performance really nailed it for me, and has been a VA for me to follow ever since. I caught a recent viewing of it at the university's club recently... the art was admittedly worse than I remembered, so I agree there. Though I learned that I still don't like the ending theme.... too screechy? too dissonant? Whatever it was, the song just didn't sit well with me.[/i] |
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dtm42
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So what if the animation and art is nothing to write home about? Are modern Anime fans - and I'm talking about the ones who like more than just the latest fad - really that shallow? Give me an older series with its not-so-good-(but-good-enough)-that-the-average-viewer-probably-won't-notice animation that a newer show with shiny visuals but no substance, such as say, Trinity Blood.
The music in Trigun is awesome, the battles are epic (especially the final one), Vash and Wolfwood are Legendary-class characters, and the supporting cast ain't bad either. The writing can be shaky in some episodes but overall it is superb. Really, you know an Anime is good when you are shouting - pleading - with Vash to pull the trigger, because you can't bear to see him get hurt anymore. How's that for invoking a positive emotional response from the audience? We would almost certainly not be so emotionally involved if the show wasn't so successful in getting us to care about the characters. Yes, the Anime did have plot holes that could only be fixed by reading the Manga. But you know what? It doesn't matter. This to me is what a Masterpiece looks like, ladies and gentlemen. It doesn't have to please your eyeballs, only your heart and brain. |
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ikillchicken
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Oh come on! What's this 'on the cusp' stuff? Trigun is a classic, plain and simple. You're entitled to your own opinion of course but it seems pretty silly to me to suggest this series falls short of being a classic just because of some shoddy animation. Yeah, without a doubt the visuals are pretty low quality even compared to other stuff from that era. It's at least functional enough to convey the story though and to me it seems pretty much moot when you're dealing with such a well written and well executed story. |
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Dagon123
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^^^Gonna have to go with ikillchicken here, its a classic any way you look at it, I know its a review and you have to take both good and bad into account, but being classic I think is beyond just how good the animation looks, but is how well the story unfolds and the characters who tell that story, and in Trigun's case they hit a home run
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Zalis116
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*Which does have all the correct openings. However, it also has hardsubbed ED lyrics, and may be pricey to get at this point.
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Tamaria
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I dunno. I'm an avid gamer and he's in like 1/3 of the games I play. Maybe more. He is everywhere. He is usually the good-natured (blond haired) hero and he is good at it. Good to the point of being typecast... Which actually worked out really well in Persona 4, haha 
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vashthekaizoku
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The reviewer referred to those who don't enjoy "pre-2000" anime, and then proceeds to skewer one of that era's sacred cows? Smacks a little of pandering to the crowd you're complaining about...Trigun was one of the first anime I truly fell in love with. While it may not translate to today's 1080p BluRay standards, what does? If you think the art looks funky, check out the original manga. It makes the chicken scratch of the Tsubasa or FLCL manga look like da Vinci. I'm just saying, the reviewer comes across a bit biased...like there were some pre-conceived notions going in...
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pachy_boy
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There are plenty of older, classic series that I watched back when they first came out that I still love today, like Tenchi Muyo and Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, but Trigun wasn't one of them. I was late jumping on the Trigun wagon, but when I watched Funimation's release of this series, it felt like an old, classic series that I really could have watched from long before today's newer stuff, something that still stood out and helped me fully appreciate and enjoy it as I watch even among today's newer stuff. Like Theron said this series had unique aspects that make it endear into today, I really liked Millie and Meryl for being somewhat unusual supporting heroines, and now I'm truly looking forward to seeing the movie!
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Shenl742
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You consider a couple knocks against the art and animation a "skewering"? Come on now.  This review seems pretty damn positive. You're just complaining because the reviewer isn't gushing about everything about it like you are
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vashfanatic
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Okay, so as you can maybe tell from my nickname
 Trigun was one of my first series, and Vash was my first anime crush, hence why I took his name as my primary internet persona back in 2002. I would not, however, say that it is my favorite series of all time, though I do still love it.
And as a big fan, I will say its animation is its flaw, not because it is poor all around but because it is variable. When it is good, it is awesome. Watch episode 12 ("Diablo") and tell me you don't get chills. When it's awkward, though, it is awkward. I'm not sure whether that's its age so much as, well, as you said, this wasn't hugely popular in Japan and it probably didn't get the highest budget. I do disagree with you on the character design of Legato, which I frankly consider less weird than half the character designs in Naruto and Bleach. I suppose he does evoke the 90s style character designs in America, heavy on the shoulder pads (Nightow reads American comics). I'll also disagree on the spaceships being "uninspired." They added a really great touch to the series, as relics of a much greater civilization looming over the more primitive surroundings, giving the first hints of the bigger story behind everything. Overall, though, Trigun makes up for its erratic animation with, well, everything you mentioned. It has great stories, great character, really good music, and remarkably thoughtful morality, particularly in its final episodes. I've got Geneon's Remix versions already (a present from a friend, bless him, he found them cheap), so I won't be buying this version. But if you've never been exposed to Trigun before (I'm talking to you ultra-newbies) or if you couldn't afford the older DVDs, well, here's your opportunity! |
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Key
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No, "the reviewer" did not. That was Zalis116's comments earlier in this thread.
And what, exactly, do you mean by that? I always love it when someone accuses me of having a bias or agenda without bothering to elaborate on what they think that bias/agenda actually is. |
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Dimlos
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staab99
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They sure don't make anime like they used to!
 
Trigun is still one of my favorite anime's, it was also the first anime I saw outside of TV (this was back 2001 before AS). Yeah the animation looks cheap at times, but it makes up for it with it's story. I honestly rather watch a show before the 2000's that has a great story, then a show that has a ton of eye candy and bare bones plot. When we watched this in our first club meeting, I saw many members who remembers watching this back on AS and loving it all over again. Then again we had a few members who just HATED this show because of how it looks, I'm sorry I sound like a snob but if you just hate a show because "it's not pretty" then you shouldn't be considered an anime fan. Yes I know people won't like shows like Trigun or even Cowboy Bebop (hell I still don't think Evangelion is all that great, but I respect it), but to dismiss a show based on a few minutes and writing it off as crap, is just completley asinine in my books. Sorry for the rant! I just felt that I had to get this off my chest. But back to the boxset, where other people disappointed that Funimation didn't include the real openings for each episode of Trigun? It disappointed me a little bit. |
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The American Average
 Posts: 645 Location: Jehuty |
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it's an great anime, so whats the point in reviewing it?
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