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Kadmos1
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Yes, that's the collective sum, however the individual amount was varied.
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Яeverse
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Hopefully most are married or have multiple incomes.
Dont know why anyone would want to work in animey, writers, muscians, character designers and voice actors are the only parts of animey that seem like you could make big money |
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Kadmos1
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This seems to be the case but I have read/heard that studios like Ghibli do treat their animators better than some studios. The harsh truth is there are people who choose to be animators who know that they will be working long hours and earn a horrible income. |
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Tempest_Wing
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Nobody should be paid dismal amounts of money even if it is "for a short while" and be expected to work outrageous amounts of hours to boot. These companies should be willing to accommodate them generously in return in terms of food and shelter, I mean it's just until they get promoted, right? No big deal, right?
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Hoppy800
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Still doesn't excuse some animators not being paid a livable wage, it's a human rights violation and studios can do better, I can live without a few anime per season if it means the animators get a livable wage.
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JulieYBM
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Where is that extra money going to come from? Studios don't have money lying around, it's why projects are funded by production committees and networks. In-betweeners are typically eighteen year kids fresh out of high school or college with no skill or experience. It's no surprise they get less money for having less to offer. The study shows--not to mention reports from other insiders--that animation is something they're doing for fun. They don't need to be in animation at all, they could be working some other job if they wanted. They don't want to, though, but that doesn't mean they're entitled to more money just because they like their jobs, either. |
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Aaronrules380
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Animators get paid crap because if they didn't making animated shows would be pretty much impossible due to insane costs
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Hameyadea
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More often than not the unused funds trickle downwards, so the execs, producers, directors, etc will get the lion share of it, while the rest of the chain will see less and less, until those in the bottom will barely even see the increase in their salary, if at all. |
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cheesechimp
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According to this article, Character Designers are payed $42K on average, which is a livable wage but hardly "big money." |
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walw6pK4Alo
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But fewer shows also means less available work. |
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Former ANN Editor in Chief
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Some other random stats from the report that might interest folks (naturally, with the word of caution that maybe I misunderstood some of the graphs)
Page 13 (figure 2.1.2) shows how much education people have -- a majority went to trade schools (40.4% for men, 49.7% for women), followed by college/university (38.8% for men, 28.9% for women). Those who graduated High School (only) are in 3rd (15.8% for men, 9.4% for women). Page 14 (2.2.1) Out of 759 responses, 192 are married. 543 are not married. 19 are divorced or widowed, and 5 didn't answer. Page 14 (2.2.2) Out of 758 responses, 103 have children, 641 do not and 14 didn't answer. Page 15 (2.2.3) Out of 759 responses, 55.5% live alone. 19% live with one other individual. 11.6% live with two others, 9.6% with three others, 2.5% with four others, and 0.4% with five or more roommates. Page 15 (2.2.4) -- I don't quite understand this one, but if I'm reading it right, 513 (67.7%) are the primary income for their household, 86 (11.3%) are primarily carried by someone else's income, 154 (20.3%) are "Other" (expenses shared? 整髪費は折半等) Page 22 (2.4.2) has a graph of how long individuals have been in animation; that should probably be fairly self-explanatory. (and I should probably learn to finish my sentences!) There's lots of other interesting graphs and data here -- monthly salaries etc.. There's a word graph (7.1.1) on page 65, which has a few interesting words that pop out if you can read it, plus a lengthy bit after, which is what was used to generate that cloud. There's also a page somewhere (already closed the report and too lazy to reopen it) showing that 25% of workers had 3 or fewer days off work in a typical month. Only like 11% had 8 days or more (equivalent to a standard 5-day work week) |
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Madoka...AYUKAWA!
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I smell a naive person. Ask the investors, they are the ones making big money here, and yes anime its profitable for them, VERY. |
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Kadmos1
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It seems that these investors are (certain ones) are more concerned about getting their money versus the well-being of the hard-working animators who deserve a lot more. That's a thing that I despise about capitalism.
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reanimator
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While first interpretations are correct, but your Kanji for "Other" part is screwed up. It's reading as" hair cut is half the cost, etc". Anyway it means "50/50 split of living expense, etc".
It's a collection of comments from survey participants. They have commented everything from working condition to pay to retirement, and etc. So I think they're the most interesting part to read which I'm going to tackle.
So it's not too bleak as it sounds. Animation production is labor intensive work and when someone in the pipeline got stuck in the schedule, it affects everyone. Anyway, Japanese animation production always have been suffered by lack of manpower, thus the outsourcing to foreign countries. |
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_Cyphon_
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Most of the people joined the industry because they had a passion for anime. They might have lost that passion over time, but no doubt their initial motive was a love for the work, even if it had long hours and low wages. I believe Ghibli did treat their animators better with fixed wages, but I remember reading somewhere that it may be changing within the studio. Without Miyazaki to make sure fire hits, they are possibly changing how it's animators are paid.
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