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7jaws7
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:38 pm
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Kinda weird how NGNL volume two isn't even up for pre-order yet.
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FoolsLove
Joined: 31 Oct 2014
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:43 pm
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7jaws7 wrote: | Kinda weird how NGNL volume two isn't even up for pre-order yet. |
Because it doesn't exist yet. Latest chapter of the NGNL manga is 7, volume 1 goes up to chapter 6.
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infamoustakai
Joined: 12 Jun 2014
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:44 pm
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Let the NGNL domination begin!
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Sunny milk
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:25 pm
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It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out.
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Dark Absol
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:23 pm
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Sunny milk wrote: | It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out. |
Loli sexualization still exists in the manga we have today.
And manga are not usually for the casuals.
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Niyari
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:37 pm
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Sunny milk wrote: | It seems making NGNL as casual as possible, by removing any loli sexualization almost completely really paid out. |
are you implying they've removed/edited some of the Shiro fanservice? legitimately curious as i haven't heard anything about this
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Sunny milk
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:34 pm
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I actually meant the anime (yes, the anime removed or tamed all service she had).
By making it appealing to the widest possible fanbase (on the expense of lolicons), it became pretty famous and well received in the west, which is reflected in these sales.
I'm just curious how many of these people will find Shiro's sexualization offensive here.
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Happiness for Subaru
Joined: 24 Feb 2011
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Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:43 pm
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I saw it as weird but not offensive because it felt like it fit into the show...organically, I suppose? I can't give a really informed opinion though since I didn't see the show through. Loli service usually squicks me out, but I dropped the show for other reasons.
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Sunny milk
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 1:46 am
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Yes; that was my point: the show tamed it down so hard that even people who are usually "squicked out" by loli service don't find it offensive.
Believe me, the novel illustrations would make those people drop it as if it were contagious.
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Dark Absol
Joined: 09 Dec 2009
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 6:06 am
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Sunny milk wrote: | I actually meant the anime (yes, the anime removed or tamed all service she had).
By making it appealing to the widest possible fanbase (on the expense of lolicons), it became pretty famous and well received in the west, which is reflected in these sales.
I'm just curious how many of these people will find Shiro's sexualization offensive here. |
I take it that you're one of minors who finds lolis offensive?
I don't think that removing the lolis 'sexualization' would help the sales as the purists want the anime intact (such as no 'ray of beam' censors or completely cut some scenes altogether/replace scene with tamer version), even in the west.
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Jayhosh
Joined: 24 May 2013
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:30 am
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I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.
Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though.
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Spotlesseden
Joined: 09 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:05 pm
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Jayhosh wrote: | I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.
Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though. |
US market is very small. Sometime, all you need is 10k to be the est seller for that week.
Other than Japan, Only the French market can sell up 100k copies of vol on some manga. Aot is in top 10 like almost every week for a year now.I still dont think it sold that many copies compare to French and Japan.
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Sunny milk
Joined: 22 Jan 2014
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:26 pm
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Dark Absol wrote: |
I take it that you're one of minors who finds lolis offensive?
I don't think that removing the lolis 'sexualization' would help the sales as the purists want the anime intact (such as no 'ray of beam' censors or completely cut some scenes altogether/replace scene with tamer version), even in the west. |
You really don't understand what I'm writing.
I LOVE loli fanservice. And the anime already completely butchered it compared to the LNs, and that's what I'm talking about. They made it so tame it's not even the same thing, and has a complete audience switch over thanks to it.
And that's also the reason it could ever get popular among western fandom; if they actually showed anything closed to LN illustrations, 90% of today's fans would have dropped it after a few minutes.
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CallumKeyblade
Joined: 30 Jul 2014
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Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:05 pm
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Spotlesseden wrote: |
Jayhosh wrote: | I don't find "loli service" offensive, I just find it really stupid.
Surprised No Game No Life is the best selling manga/novel/whatever on the list. Didn't think it was that popular. I watched the first episode and didn't feel compelled to watch anymore of it. Not that it was that bad or anything, but it didn't grab me much either. Maybe it got better later on. But I didn't like the first episode enough to keep watching and find that out. Did like the vibrant art though. |
US market is very small. Sometime, all you need is 10k to be the est seller for that week.
Other than Japan, Only the French market can sell up 100k copies of vol on some manga. Aot is in top 10 like almost every week for a year now.I still don't think it sold that many copies compare to French and Japan. |
Attack On Titan 1 has definitely sold over 100k in English. Kodansha USA said when there were 12 or 13 volumes released that there were 1.5 million copies which is just over 100k per volume on average. (Still not much compared to Japan's sales but quite impressive for the western market)
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:07 pm
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A Jan. 29 ANN article, "Attack on Titan Prints 30 Million in Japan, 660,000 in N. America". By comparison, TokyoPop's best seller was Fruits Basket which sold over 2 million (the same sales figure for the Naruto manga).
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