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Forum - View topicNEWS: Kara no Kyoukai BD Box Sells 25,000 to Rank #2 Weekly
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msgundam2
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It's selling very well. Even Right Stuff was sold out of Kara no Kyoukai BD Box sets.
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Kougeru
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pricing makes no sense at all other than greed, but its working so good for them
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Sanosuke_Inara
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Right on.
 Shame I couldn't be one of the ones with enough bank to actually get this thing, but hell--maybe some day. :/
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Mario1234567
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When it get an English Dub and a Epic price cut (I'd pay $70 for it) I would pay $300 for a Blu-ray Clannad box-set
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Big Hed
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What I'm taking away from this is that Fate/Zero is going to be the most awesome thing I've ever seen.
Heh, go figure. Glad I pre-ordered! |
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loka
 Posts: 373 Location: Pittsburgh, PA |
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'Added Value' is what matters. And no, a dub is not 'Added Value'. And personally, I don't find the shitty manga adaptations 'Added Value' either. |
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PlatinumHawke
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I wonder how much the sales from Rightstuf contributed to this number.
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luffypirate
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My cardboard briefcase is lost somewhere in the desert...
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chronos02
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@Kougeru
With that comment it's plain obvious you don't know how the Japanese production cost - sale price works. Brief explanation: Japan creates the movies, costing them millions of yen for every chapter. They then sell the movie based on the benefits/minute (Income for every minute - cost (fix and variable) of one minute production), which is around a 7%~20%. So they get an overall benefit of a 7%~20% from the sold product. Example: They sell a movie for 100$ and they have a benefit margin of 10%, thus they earn 10$. Keep in mind that the bigger and richer a production company is, the lower the margin they use (because they tend to sell more, they use lower prices, just take a look at super big company DVD's and smaller company one's). This also means that the smaller production companies have a bigger margin, as to make for the fact that they don't sell as much. Now, for the USA and the EU: Company A (Europe) asks production company A (Japan) for the rights of X movie/series, so to sell the DVD/BD/screening in it's territory. They make an offer to Production company A and they accept (this usually takes from some months to a year). The price they get for selling the X move/series is usually VERY low, then, they get some shady translators (with around 5 years of Japanese experience) and make them translate the whole script for some pocket money. After that, they look for the ONLY dubbing actors with the will to dub a Japanese anime (usually so NOT motivated) and do the dubbing in some days, hurrying and sprinting so they can release (forget about censorships, they do that en masse without much care), Then, if they see the need to it, they hire a third party company to make some subs, with a horrible font and total inaccuracy of translation and timing. Finally, they do a Quality Check... oh wait, we gotta release now! They take some pics of the movie/series, modify them a bit with paint, put them on a template and send them to print the boxes, send the DVD (with home made menus) data to the DVD manufacturer, and once it's done, pack it all with the help of some very cheap and unknown helpers, distribute it fast and finally get the money. All in all, these EU/American companies, tend to get around 25%~40% of benefits (excluding some) per DVD. With a sale price of 30$ for 3 episode DVDs and 40$~100$ for DVD boxes. The reason is obvious, they got way more people to sell to, they payed much less than the Japanese did to produce the move/series, and they spent nearly nothing to adequate the movie/series to the market (nonsensical translations, shady dubs, and incomprehensible subs). Thus, even if the Japanese have expensive DVDs / BDs, the quality of these is way above the American/EU one. And by that I don't just mean the dubbing of the characters, boxes, and DVD material quality, as well as extras, but also the encoding of the RAW material into the DVD/BD (I've seen many 5 episode single layered DVDs with loads of extras, and three sound tracks packed into them), resulting in bad sound and bad video quality. Well, if you don't mind such things, everything's all right, but many people DO mind, and we are bound to buy the Japanese editions (which I rather buy, as I'm directly giving money to the creators). And if we can't afford them... well, we get rather pissed. Speaking of getting pissed, the Kara no Kyoukai BD movie quality, though better than the DVD one, has been quite a shock for me. It's one of the few times I've seen a superproduction having such flaw. [ALL the % benefit values are general, they do not represent the real benefits of any company, but they still represent the general % a company gets for selling a DVD/BD, I'm not going to make a bibliography, but I'm on this lil world, so I have to know this stuff] |
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r3vival
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I really wanted this one alas it was out of my budget for the time being =(. Glad to see it's doing so well though.
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enurtsol
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See! Japanese consumers are a reliable market who put their money where their mouths are! Unlike fickle unreliable Japanese-weaboo cheapskates around the world who profess their undying love for anything Japanese but only when they don't have to pay for it.
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luffypirate
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Amen! |
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Spotlesseden
Posts: 3514 Location: earth |
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although there are some truth to it. I don't think many people have money to buy the Kara No Kyoukai DB box set. Japanese blu-ray are just too expensive for us. I'm not saying the the price is too high because I don't think they can double the sale even if they cut the price to half. You get to set whatever price that make you most most money.
probably none. RightStuf is selling it at February 8. Unless preorder count too. that number was from January 31-February 6. Oricon's probably don't count the American's sale either way. I think the RightStuf blu-ray set is little different than the Japanese version. You got English booklet and stuffs. |
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firedragon54738
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Wow only if I had the cash to get it I would have got it
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jmfsilenthill
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Glad I pre-ordered. I find it funny that TRSI is sold out, yet there are still adds for the set on ANN's front page.
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