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Forum - View topicNEWS: UK Virtual Child Porn Ban Takes Effect on Tuesday
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Otaku_X
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What's this world coming to?
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Shichimi
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Before people completely freak out, it would be a good idea to go through this PDF.
So there's no need to stop reading Negima! et al just yet! Where US imports of anime and such stand, I'm not too certain. As they won't have been BBFC rated, this could be a bit of a grey area?
Anyone surfing teh internets for their hentai fix may be in trouble though. I'm assuming 'child' here refers to any person who appears to be under 18 years of age. If you're going to surf for hentai, be damn selective about what you get. Last edited by Shichimi on Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:23 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Greed1914
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The thing I noticed from the excerpt is that the term "obscene" has appeared once again. The ambiguity of what is obscene is what gets people worried. |
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Shichimi
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It's up to a jury, it seems. Last edited by Shichimi on Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:29 am; edited 1 time in total |
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GWOtaku
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The important detail is that it actually is more specific than just banning "obscenity" as a vague term. The relevant details are here (the link should go to section 62 in chapter 2). The most critical parts to pay attention to are 1, 2, 6 and 7, where the bill specifically defines what a prohibited image would be.
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Shichimi
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@ GWOtaku:
Yup yup. If it's on the bullet list, then you are in trouble, sonny jim. Otherwise, it goes to a jury decision as to whether it can be considered 'obscene'. Really, looking at this, it's no big deal and is obviously aimed at getting rid of loli stuff. BUT the big concern is with certain art styles that concentrate on characteristics belonging to younger people - big eyes, small build etc. Like I said, if you're gonna get hentai off the net, then certain art styles are out I should think. |
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moritheil
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I would say it's a little misleading to call this a "child porn ban" as it defines "child" as anyone under 18. This despite the fact that the age of consent in the UK is 16, leading to the weird situation where anyone could legally have actual sex with someone 16-17 but couldn't draw them nude.
In practical terms, it's up to whether the cops/prosecutor feels like throwing the book at someone. It's basically a discretionary power. |
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Ojamajo LimePie
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Goodbye, End of Evangelion. |
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Shichimi
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Nope. This stuff does not apply to stuff that can be legally sold in the UK. So if it's cool with the BBFC, it's cool with them.
Please don't freak! |
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CCSYueh
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Have things improved from all those '70's horror movie books in my collection that talk about the extreme censorship in England vs the US & Japan? I recall one of the books had a rather humorous description of an interview with a fan in England after a Hammer Horror where the fan described a very gory scene that never happened (obviously a rich fantasy life) which horrified the film promoters. The basic premise that movies were released in England pretty tame, More gore added for the US, & bloodfest for Japan. I'm freaking. God, we go insane every so often, don't we? |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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I mean it kind of opens floodgates for a lot of things. |
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Shichimi
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Past, please look at the quotations from the documentation I linked to. If the BBFC approve of a show, and it can be bought, then there is no problem. CCSYueh, that's gonna happen all the time, isn't it? Right now it seems to be anime's turn, a little before that videogames, and so on... EDIT: LOL, Past, I'm editing to reply to your edit! NO, because the BBFC can't suddenly 'change it's mind' as it were. If they're OK with it, they're OK with it, has always been my (limited! ) understanding. This new stuff doesn't affect how the BBFC rates things, it comes into play when applied to something that has not been looked over by the BBFC. Reading through the PDF, the thrust of this appears to be stamping out anything that could be looked at as lolicon. It talks about how experts have claimed that such material has a strong chance of being found alongside actual child porn. Last edited by Shichimi on Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:32 am; edited 1 time in total |
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GATSU
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More like goodbye anyone in the UK who owns a copy of "The Aristocrats".
Yeah, it really worked out when they decided Bruce Lee with nun-chucks is bad, but Meet the Feebles is fine and dandy. |
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Ok thank you Shichi-san, but I'll still be on the lookout for tiny trickles from those floodgates
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Shichimi
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Forgot to post this. As it says, no action taken, but suggested nonetheless. Although the idea of rape is disgusting and reprehensible, I have to say that even prolonged periods of playing Ninja Gaiden 2 does not make me want to slice people up. The document goes on to suggest that one reason the new legislation went through is that strong links were identified between lolicon and real CP. Not causally, but that both types of material were found together extremely often, and that's enough for them. |
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