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animaters
Joined: 21 Apr 2022
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:22 pm
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that's just how show biz doublespeak is. the leak been confirmed as legit by credible sources
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YackDe
Joined: 23 Apr 2024
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:25 pm
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Too few people have approached what was posted with skepticism. There was no link to the associated materials in Japanese, just plain text that anybody could have written. The mention of George Lucas seems specifically targeted at an English-speaking audience, and the random mention of Serena is way too inside baseball for the Anipoke fandom. And it was posted by someone notorious for just grabbing anything they can, including stuff people make to mess with them.
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IceKirby
Joined: 15 Jan 2009
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 9:33 pm
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YackDe wrote: | There was no link to the associated materials in Japanese, just plain text that anybody could have written. |
I really wanted to see that document in japanese, because from the english one I saw I can't tell if they meant "strained relations between the Matsumoto and Ootani" or "strained relations between the anime producers and the voice actress".
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malvarez1
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:11 pm
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To be honest, that rumor never made sense. Would they really drop Ash the money-cow for that? I feel like you wouldn’t even need to bring Ikue in to record new sounds anymore.
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MFrontier
Joined: 13 Apr 2014
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:11 pm
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Well, it would be nice if the voices of one of the most iconic duos in anime got along well.
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James02
Joined: 10 Sep 2014
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:46 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Well, it would be nice if the voices of one of the most iconic duos in anime got along well. |
And they do, they totally do.
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Juno016
Joined: 09 Jan 2012
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:47 pm
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animaters wrote: | that's just how show biz doublespeak is. the leak been confirmed as legit by credible sources |
Even if the leaked discussion in question turns out to be real (keep in mind a lot of fake leaks keep getting mixed in with the real leaks), the document does not actually say Matsumoto-san and Ohtani-san were fighting with each other, nor that the anime would end because of any fighting.
I'm not really fond of the idea of sharing leaked text, especially if it does turn out to be fake, but for the sake of context seriously needed in this discussion, here is the quote at the core of the controversy:
Quote: | Miyahara-san: Ishihara has always pushed for new challenges. At one point, there was even a suggestion to keep Ash and Pikachu but change the voice actors. There were also internal discussions about parting ways with Rica Matsumoto and Ikue Ohtani due to strained relations. |
People literally cannot read. I'm still waiting to find the original Japanese document to confirm any language quirks that might've been missed in the translation, but for now, this is all I have and it insinuates nothing like the rumors being spread.
This leak has been nothing but a headache of misinfo for a translator like me. People are taking machine translations at full face value, getting excited over minute details and words, and then getting angry when actual translators and Japanese speakers chime in to correct them and debunk their theories or headcannons. Y'all, this stuff isn't canon. It's neat, and I think it's fun to see the process of how lore and assets in a game are developed, but almost everything coming out was scrapped. Treat it as such.
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DolFun The Dolphin Vtuber
Joined: 16 Jun 2024
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:59 pm
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Not sure why the bothered ending Ash & Pikachu.
Main character of new show has a Pikachu & Charizard.
Same thing different day.
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YackDe
Joined: 23 Apr 2024
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Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 11:15 pm
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DolFun The Dolphin Vtuber wrote: | Not sure why the bothered ending Ash & Pikachu.
Main character of new show has a Pikachu & Charizard.
Same thing different day. |
Friede is not the main character, he's a mentor figure who hadn't even been in the show for the last 22 episodes.
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