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MFrontier
Joined: 13 Apr 2014
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:45 pm
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First Log Horizon and now Apothecary Diaries!
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Rob19ny
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:24 pm
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*insert SA meme* Ah ship, here we go again.
This time on "Who evaded taxes in Japan!". Today's contestant is Nekokurage! What did they do? *drumroll*
Quote: | Nekokurage responded to the allegations on Twitter, claiming that they neglected their tax returns due to ignorance. |
Ah! The Skyler White. That's a good one. An old classic. Well played. (Relax. Don't take it seriously.).
So what's the outcome? We're looking at "Sentenced to between 10 and 15 months in prison with a 3 year suspended sentence".
They might just give the 10 months. It doesn't have the weight of 20 months. 15 months is the highest I can see.
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Shay Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:36 pm
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It always feels so weird seeing their real names reported in these stories.
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JustMonika
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:42 pm
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April fools!
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:13 pm
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Don't know Japanese tax law, so I can't say if the excuse is valid or not. Though the amounts noted seem to be quite high for a manga artist, that you might think they should have known. But Japanese tax law might be just that byzantine, or the taxes owed themselves might not be from normal tax valuations.
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merr
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:14 pm
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That’s a lot of money to be ignorant about…
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Minos_Kurumada
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:37 pm
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"Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen".
Karl Marx.
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Andrew Cunningham
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:43 pm
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I get the impression (though I might be conflating it with the invoice thing) that there were some major revisions to how taxes work for self-employed people that caught a lot of people off guard, which is probably also why she got off with a fine instead of all that stuff the poster up thread is saying. (Her twitter post says they sent her the amount owed and the fine for late payment and she paid them both, suggesting that was the end of the issue.)
Lots of posts running around in Japan cracking 'jokes' about the tax office doxxing your real name, age, and gender. Feels ethically questionable to include that in coverage (this thought directed more at the Japanese press than ANN.)
Some other posts going around talking about how they looked at what they had to do now and just immediately got an accountant or they'd be here with her. (Rifujin na Magonote specifically.)
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xxmsxx
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:09 pm
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Kind of hoping this was an April Fools joke.........
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Utsuro no Hako
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:13 pm
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Minos_Kurumada wrote: | "Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen".
Karl Marx. |
Marx said that in response to a particular corrupt government refusing to allow a democratically elected assembly from convening. It was not intended as a statement of general principle.
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WatcherZer
Joined: 29 Dec 2016
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:16 pm
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Minos_Kurumada wrote: | "Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen".
Karl Marx. |
Always an ironic quote.
It was written to protest the shutting down the Frankfurt Parliament (dominated by the Intelligentsia) in favour of a National Assembly (dominated by the working class) after the Frankfurt Parliament voted to make Frederick William IV hereditary Emperor of the Germans and he refused the position (Frederick preferred a Federal rather than centralised Germany with regional governments).
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Azure Chrysanthemum
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:37 pm
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Andrew Cunningham wrote: | I get the impression (though I might be conflating it with the invoice thing) that there were some major revisions to how taxes work for self-employed people that caught a lot of people off guard, which is probably also why she got off with a fine instead of all that stuff the poster up thread is saying. (Her twitter post says they sent her the amount owed and the fine for late payment and she paid them both, suggesting that was the end of the issue.)
Lots of posts running around in Japan cracking 'jokes' about the tax office doxxing your real name, age, and gender. Feels ethically questionable to include that in coverage (this thought directed more at the Japanese press than ANN.)
Some other posts going around talking about how they looked at what they had to do now and just immediately got an accountant or they'd be here with her. (Rifujin na Magonote specifically.) |
It seems like this is on the mark. I know in the US you can avoid a lot of trouble once the IRS catches you just by giving them all the money they want, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised if the same holds true in Japan.
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RenimLS
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:44 pm
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Interestingly, the Apothecary Dairies apparently has two concurrent manga adaptations that started in 2017. One published in Big Gangan by Square Enix and another published in Sunday GX by Shogakukan. The one published by Square Enix is the one involved in the article and is also the only one to be licensed to be translated in English.
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Rob19ny
Joined: 13 Jun 2020
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:00 pm
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Andrew Cunningham wrote: | which is probably also why she got off with a fine instead of all that stuff the poster up thread is saying. (Her twitter post says they sent her the amount owed and the fine for late payment and she paid them both, suggesting that was the end of the issue.) |
Oh, don't be scared/sneaky. You could have made your post without mentioning "all that stuff the poster up thread". At least have the courage, the decency, to mention them by name since you involved them in your post. If it were 5, 10, 20 posters, it would be understandable that you can't specify because its too many, but its just 1 poster. "all that stuff the poster up thread" is 29 letters. "Rob19ny" is 7 letters. You would have saved yourself time instead of spending more time trying to be sneaky. Even if I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, the logic just isn't logicing.The article explained what happened and what she did after perfectly. What I said was for my own reasons related to the article that I don't expect someone to comprehend so you needn't pay it mind.
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rankothefiremage
Joined: 16 Oct 2003
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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:30 pm
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the production companies really should make sure that creators have a CPA to keep an eye on things when they get a windfall
my brother's best friend does that, he's a CPA who keeps an eye on the books for officers of other companies to make sure their taxes are done correctly to avoid legal issues around taxes
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