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NEWS: Japan's Video Game Rankings, January 29-February 4 [2024-02-11]




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Silver Kirin



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2024 2:44 pm Reply with quote
In total, P3R sold 116.392 copies, those aren't bad numbers, though compared to previous Persona remakes/rerelases, P5 Royal sold 201.448, P4 Golden sold 152.499, P3 Portable sold 108.099 and P3 FES sold 105.099. And just to mention, the original Persona 3 sold 127.472 in its debut week. As always we had to consider the rise of digital sales, P3R probably sold more copies than its previous rereleases, though I don't think it sold more copies that P5. Some people would say that perhaps P3R would've sold a couple thousand more units in Japan if perhaps Atlus made a Switch version, but according to its developers they didn't even consider making one, and some rumors say a P3R port will probably be released on the Switch's successor.
Though speaking about hardware, the Switch once again sold more units than the PS5 after being in second place for a few weeks. Which is kind of interesting considering that the PS5 is having major sofware releases.
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Man, the Xbox is just a total non-entity on Japan, huh? Persona 3 Reload also released on Xbox, but no Xbox games even made the chart. What's the last game on that platform that DID make the chart, I wonder? Confused
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Silver Kirin wrote:
In total, P3R sold 116.392 copies, those aren't bad numbers, though compared to previous Persona remakes/rerelases, P5 Royal sold 201.448, P4 Golden sold 152.499, P3 Portable sold 108.099 and P3 FES sold 105.099. And just to mention, the original Persona 3 sold 127.472 in its debut week. As always we had to consider the rise of digital sales, P3R probably sold more copies than its previous rereleases, though I don't think it sold more copies that P5. Some people would say that perhaps P3R would've sold a couple thousand more units in Japan if perhaps Atlus made a Switch version, but according to its developers they didn't even consider making one, and some rumors say a P3R port will probably be released on the Switch's successor.
Though speaking about hardware, the Switch once again sold more units than the PS5 after being in second place for a few weeks. Which is kind of interesting considering that the PS5 is having major sofware releases.

These numbers are a little misleading and doesn't reflect how unprecedented this release has been. Worldwide the game sold over 1 million copies in the first week, the fastest of any other Atlus game to reach that milestone. By comparison the total lifetime worldwide sales of all versions of P3 (including P3FES and P3P) prior to P3R are estimated at 1,418,367. Rumor has it this has caused Atlus to internally greenlight remakes of all of the numbered Persona games except for 5.

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StarDango



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Maybe this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone who played P3R inform me if it’s worth getting? I’m one of those fans who’s on the fence, for admittedly petty reasons (I just don’t like that they changed the entire EN cast. I know I’m being unreasonable.)

With that said- if it’s really good and something a hardcore P3 fan would appreciate, then I’m willing to bite the bullet and get it.
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StarDango wrote:
Maybe this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone who played P3R inform me if it’s worth getting?
It is.
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StarDango wrote:
Maybe this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone who played P3R inform me if it’s worth getting? I’m one of those fans who’s on the fence, for admittedly petty reasons (I just don’t like that they changed the entire EN cast. I know I’m being unreasonable.)


If you have problem with that stick with the original games.

Especially if you liked the original music since practically all the songs were redone.
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StarDango wrote:
Maybe this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone who played P3R inform me if it’s worth getting? I’m one of those fans who’s on the fence, for admittedly petty reasons (I just don’t like that they changed the entire EN cast. I know I’m being unreasonable.)

With that said- if it’s really good and something a hardcore P3 fan would appreciate, then I’m willing to bite the bullet and get it.


It is ok. Some changes are good others are bad and a lot is mostly the same. It definitely isn't worth full price imo.
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Emerje wrote:
These numbers are a little misleading and doesn't reflect how unprecedented this release has been. Worldwide the game sold over 1 million copies in the first week, the fastest of any other Atlus game to reach that milestone. By comparison the total lifetime worldwide sales of all versions of P3 (including P3FES and P3P) prior to P3R are estimated at 1,418,367. Rumor has it this has caused Atlus to internally greenlight remakes of all of the numbered Persona games except for 5.

Yeah, I forgot to mention that P3R broke Atlus' records, but I was only focusing on its Japanese sales. It's just that with the news that the Switch has become the best-selling console in Japan it sometimes feels very strange that some major third-party titles skipped the platform in Japan, though I can understand that perhaps P-Studio thought the game couldn't run well on the Switch and they're just wating for more powerful hardware, I heard that the game has some issues on the PS4 and Xbox Series S
Anyway it seems that SEGA/Atlus are focusing more on the international market, considering how popular the Persona franchise has become since the release of P5 and I'm also aware of the rumors about the P2 and P4 remakes, though I remember that on June of last year a leaker said that Shin Megami Tensei V was getting an updated version that was going to be released on all consoles and PC but we haven't seen anything yet.
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BadNewsBlues wrote:
Especially if you liked the original music since practically all the songs were redone.


And unlike a lot of other remakes there's no option to switch back to the old OST which is very unfortunate. No disrespect to the new singer but I much prefer the old versions.

As for the game itself, it's okay. I'd still say FES is the better experience. Allegedly there's a leaked DLC coming out that puts in the FES content. Although $70 + ??? for an almost 20 year old game is hard for me to really support. I'd say wait until it's on sale.
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StarDango wrote:
Maybe this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone who played P3R inform me if it’s worth getting? I’m one of those fans who’s on the fence, for admittedly petty reasons (I just don’t like that they changed the entire EN cast. I know I’m being unreasonable.)

With that said- if it’s really good and something a hardcore P3 fan would appreciate, then I’m willing to bite the bullet and get it.


I never played Persona 3 but I'm absolutely loving it so far with about 20 hours in. Definitely worth it.
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As expected of Relink. Had it originally released in 2018 or even 2020, it would have done way over 150k physical. I say that with confidence.

As expected of RGG, the PS4 version has better hold than the PS5. People are not letting go of the night time console. Must be because the PS5 is too bright with its white color.

Silver Kirin wrote:
Which is kind of interesting considering that the PS5 is having major sofware releases.


It's funny how you said all that as if you knew what you were talking about just to end it with you not knowing what you are talking about. NONE of the PS5 titles that released in this chart and last week are major software releases. They do NOT increase hardware numbers. The only major software release the PS5 has had is FF16. The next major release is FF7 Rebirth. Those are the titles that increase hardware. This shouldn't have to explain this to you if you knew what you were talking about.

Raebo101 wrote:
Man, the Xbox is just a total non-entity on Japan, huh? Persona 3 Reload also released on Xbox, but no Xbox games even made the chart. What's the last game on that platform that DID make the chart, I wonder? Confused


I nearly lost my balance reading that. This is the most random post in the longest in this here sales article comments. Each sentence you made gets wilder than the previous. What year are you from? Did you just come through a time machine from 2010? You just showed up out of nowhere focused on Xbox and most importantly, Xbox physical releases? I assumed you were trolling, but you mentioned the Xbox version of P3R not charting in a chart related to physical games. Where were you in 2016 when Final Fantasy 15 sold 3k physically on Xbox while the PS4 version sold near 690k/716k launch week? In 2016, FF is a 1 million seller in Japan. If a version of that game sold 3k in a week then NO OTHER SERIES is worth a physical release on Xbox... unless it is published by Microsoft or a certain publisher is just dumb beyond belief to actually do it (Atlus is smart). I'm not answering your question to help you because of how random it was that it made you look like you came from a different time period, but I'll answer it. Diablo IV in June 2023. Only because it was a bundle.

Emerje wrote:
These numbers are a little misleading and doesn't reflect how unprecedented this release has been. Worldwide the game sold over 1 million copies in the first week, the fastest of any other Atlus game to reach that milestone.


You can't talk about misleading when you are literally misleading by enabling a pointless PR stat that generates positivity/attention that someone doesn't even have to use their brain to know that it means nothing. Why? Because it's a "No sh*t Sherlock" stat. What happens when a series has historically released in Japan first then released outside of Japan months to years later then starts getting simultaneous worldwide releases with Japan on the same day or 1 day apart? You get the fastest selling game in the series aka "No sh*t Sherlock" stat. Atlus started doing WW releases in 2021 with SMTV then with Soul Hacker 2 in 2022 and Persona 5 Tactica in 2023. SMT is SMT. Weaker than Persona. Shipped 800k in 1 month to be the fastest selling SMT title. SH2 was a bomba from its announcement and P5T is a weak P5 title that people are tired of P5 by now. P3R, despite being a remake, is the only major WW release thats close to being a new game worth buying, hence why its the fastest selling out of all of recent WW releases and the fastest. Lastly, P3R didn't "sold" 1 million. It is "physically shipments and digital sales" as stated on the website. Whatever was shipped to retailers counts as sold to the publisher. The number sold to customers is lower. Company trying to make things look prettier than they are.

Silver Kirin wrote:
It's just that with the news that the Switch has become the best-selling console in Japan it sometimes feels very strange that some major third-party titles skipped the platform in Japan, though I can understand that perhaps P-Studio thought the game couldn't run well on the Switch and they're just wating for more powerful hardware, I heard that the game has some issues on the PS4 and Xbox Series S


A developer has the right to make a game on whatever platform they want. If they want to make it multi-plat then that is their right. If they want to make it exclusive then that is their right. Nothing is strange. Thats just you wanting games to be multi-plat because you don't care nor have thought about what the developer wants.

Supaidaman 2 is going to be staying for a little while longer.

Silver Kirin wrote:
Anyway it seems that SEGA (forcing Atlus to do things they don't want to do) are focusing more on the international market, considering how popular the Persona franchise has become since the release of P5


Fixed that for you. If you've been following then there's nothing to explain.
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Emerje wrote:
These numbers are a little misleading and doesn't reflect how unprecedented this release has been. Worldwide the game sold over 1 million copies in the first week, the fastest of any other Atlus game to reach that milestone.


You can't talk about misleading when you are literally misleading by enabling a pointless PR stat that generates positivity/attention that someone doesn't even have to use their brain to know that it means nothing. Why? Because it's a "No sh*t Sherlock" stat. What happens when a series has historically released in Japan first then released outside of Japan months to years later then starts getting simultaneous worldwide releases with Japan on the same day or 1 day apart? You get the fastest selling game in the series aka "No sh*t Sherlock" stat. Atlus started doing WW releases in 2021 with SMTV then with Soul Hacker 2 in 2022 and Persona 5 Tactica in 2023. SMT is SMT. Weaker than Persona. Shipped 800k in 1 month to be the fastest selling SMT title. SH2 was a bomba from its announcement and P5T is a weak P5 title that people are tired of P5 by now. P3R, despite being a remake, is the only major WW release thats close to being a new game worth buying, hence why its the fastest selling out of all of recent WW releases and the fastest. Lastly, P3R didn't "sold" 1 million. It is "physically shipments and digital sales" as stated on the website. Whatever was shipped to retailers counts as sold to the publisher. The number sold to customers is lower. Company trying to make things look prettier than they are.

Wow, somebody gets all worked up over stupid little things. How do you react to important things? Brain aneurism? Heart attack?

What's important is that Atlus and Sega are excited by the numbers, what we do with them is irrelevant. If insiders are saying they're internally happy with the sales numbers to the point that they're looking at remaking the older titles then that's all the good news we need to take away from this. 1 million? 500K? I don't really care, they got my $200.

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