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RockSplash
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:06 pm
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Its so weird how Japanese celebrity culture is. Your rarely see children from musicians or actors being kept hidden. I understand it, but it just is so different to me. Congratulations to the marriage!
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:07 pm
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Um...well, congrats on your marriage, family, and for keeping this so under the radar! Makes me wonder about the relationship status of a lot of older male seiyuu. Daisuke Ono next?
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xxmsxx
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:02 pm
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RockSplash wrote: | Its so weird how Japanese celebrity culture is. Your rarely see children from musicians or actors being kept hidden. I understand it, but it just is so different to me. |
It may have something to do with the fact most of these celebrities are expected to act and behave to suit their fan's expectation in public, thus depicting them have a real life with real family is something the agencies believe ruins the fan's expectations.
This is a lot more pronounced in the idol industry, but unfortunately, most VAs are treated in very similar ways as well by their fans.
I remember Kotono Mitsuishi (VA for Sailor Moon) went on Japanese TV and had to put a cardboard cut-out of Sailor Moon over her face to deliver her lines and remove the cut-out after the lines are finished to "preserve fan's expectation" (as per words of the TV host) about Sailor Moon as a character.
She did the rest of the show without the cut-out of course.
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FiendHunter
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:20 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Makes me wonder about the relationship status of a lot of older male seiyuu. Daisuke Ono next? |
My thoughts exactly. Oh god, the day Nakamura Yuuichi announces his secret marriage I'm gonna die a little on the inside(?).
Jk, I really wish the best for them, whether they decide to hide their affairs or not
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StarDango
Joined: 22 Sep 2021
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:26 pm
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[quote="xxmsxx"]
RockSplash wrote: |
It may have something to do with the fact most of these celebrities are expected to act and behave to suit their fan's expectation in public, thus depicting them have a real life with real family is something the agencies believe ruins the fan's expectations. |
I feel like this type of celebrity expectation is something unique to Asian fanbases (speaking as an Asian myself and through experience.) Sure in America, and maybe other Western cultures, celebs are still held to certain high standards but most American celebrities I’ve seen are pretty open about their relationships/family life (the good and bad.)
But in places like Japan and Korea, there’s this high expectation to not “ruin the fantasy,” so to speak. Which is why Kpop idols and Japanese idols are either forbidden to have romantic relationships or to keep them hidden. And when exposed, the fan backlash is WILD.
This was many many years ago and correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember hearing that a loud fraction of Mamoru Miyano’s fans didn’t react very well when he revealed he had a girlfriend and was expecting a baby.
Though I think over the years, hiding marriage and family life has become less of a necessity, at least for Seiyuus in Japan. Every once in a while we get a Seiyuu marriage/pregnancy announcement. So I hope that’s a sign this phenomenon of “expectations” is more forgiving/flexible nowadays for them.
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Animechic420
Joined: 25 Sep 2012
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:06 pm
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xxmsxx wrote: |
RockSplash wrote: | Its so weird how Japanese celebrity culture is. Your rarely see children from musicians or actors being kept hidden. I understand it, but it just is so different to me. |
It may have something to do with the fact most of these celebrities are expected to act and behave to suit their fan's expectation in public, thus depicting them have a real life with real family is something the agencies believe ruins the fan's expectations.
This is a lot more pronounced in the idol industry, but unfortunately, most VAs are treated in very similar ways as well by their fans.
I remember Kotono Mitsuishi (VA for Sailor Moon) went on Japanese TV and had to put a cardboard cut-out of Sailor Moon over her face to deliver her lines and remove the cut-out after the lines are finished to "preserve fan's expectation" (as per words of the TV host) about Sailor Moon as a character.
She did the rest of the show without the cut-out of course. |
Sounds like Japan treats fans of anything over there like they're children. Keeping them in a state of fantasy so as not to disillusion their minds. That's not a healthy or safe way of doing things.
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Fluwm
Joined: 28 Jul 2009
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:41 pm
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xxmsxx wrote: |
RockSplash wrote: | Its so weird how Japanese celebrity culture is. Your rarely see children from musicians or actors being kept hidden. I understand it, but it just is so different to me. |
It may have something to do with the fact most of these celebrities are expected to act and behave to suit their fan's expectation in public, thus depicting them have a real life with real family is something the agencies believe ruins the fan's expectations. |
I feel like the reality of this dynamic is kind of unsavory... these "celebrities" stay unattached so that fans can project themselves as potential romantic partners. This is especially the case with women, who are essentially forced to adhere to "virginal" roles. It's less about respecting the private lives of the performers, as I see it, and more about maintaining positive paradoxical relationships with the fans... who are sometimes invested in these personas to a deeply unhealthy extent.
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whiskeyii
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:56 pm
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I gotta be honest, I’ve genuinely never understood why specifically purity culture has such a strong hold in Japan when Christianity doesn’t have nearly the same stranglehold over there as it does in the more conservative places in the US where I see purity culture rear it’s head, like in the Deep South. I’ve always conflated the two, but now I’m positive I’m missing some deeper link here.
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MakiharaMeiko
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:28 pm
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Animechic420 wrote: | Sounds like Japan treats fans of anything over there like they're children. Keeping them in a state of fantasy so as not to disillusion their minds. That's not a healthy or safe way of doing things. Confused |
But it's a profitable one. Because fans in Japan waste a lot (A LOT) of money in his idol's stuff, and in seiyuu business, that includes anime/merchan sellings too. They generate that illusion of "you can become my husband/wife" and you do whatever it takes to be closer to that illusion (like, for example, buy concert tickets just to be close to your fav seiyuu).
That's why in Japan some "fans" get really, really mad when they find out his favourite idol/seiyuu is married, because that illusion is broken. It's unhealthy? Yes. Unfair? Totally. Do seiyuus/idols deserve some privacy and respect? Hell yeah. Money moves mountains? True.
But think this way: while they get mad because they are married, western fans get mad when they cheat and it's the same issue: none of fans business xD
But people tend to mix private live with their job really quick, so...
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revolutionotaku
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:02 pm
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I want to give him a belated congratulations.
I'm actually not surprised at all since Japan has extremely strict privacy laws.
Even outside of Japan, there are even anime voice actors/actresses who've gotten married in secret & announced it publicly many months/years later.
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anisongfan
Joined: 18 Aug 2021
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:07 pm
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MFrontier wrote: | Um...well, congrats on your marriage, family, and for keeping this so under the radar! Makes me wonder about the relationship status of a lot of older male seiyuu. Daisuke Ono next? |
Maybe??? I kinda thought that earlier to myself…
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MrTerrorist
Joined: 20 Oct 2010
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:45 pm
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Thankfully, a VA having a love life and family isn't a big deal these days. Kana Hanazawa not only admitted she was dating fellow voice actor Kensho Ono, but both of them were even living together as well. Now both of them are married.
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connysanada
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 12:52 pm
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I enjoy his work, so good for him.
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zrdb
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:40 pm
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So like-who cares? It's his business and nobody else's-if he chooses to reveal it or not. It isn't a bunch of noisy intrusive "fans" goddamn so called business to know.
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capt_bunny
Joined: 31 May 2015
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:56 pm
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Oh my. It's like Sakurai announcing his marriage. Good for them. Hope he's happy with his wife!
whiskeyii wrote: | I gotta be honest, I’ve genuinely never understood why specifically purity culture has such a strong hold in Japan when Christianity doesn’t have nearly the same stranglehold over there as it does in the more conservative places in the US where I see purity culture rear it’s head, like in the Deep South. I’ve always conflated the two, but now I’m positive I’m missing some deeper link here. |
I've always wondered that myself. Even many conservative countries still have them talk about dating other celebrities. It's strange.
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