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Meet Cover Corp CEO Motoaki “Yagoo” Tanigo, The Man Behind Hololive's Virtual YouTubers

What happened to Mano-chan was 100% the managers fault for not doing his job and MANAGING her to delete the video. 100% Cover's fault. Her entire career ruined by that. Then there's other idols that have had issues. Cover really needs to step up in...covering for their employees.

However, the reality is that we are still in the process of stabilizing the internal structure of our company.

first of all the video that incited the doxxers was one she made in her previous identity as an independent, where she criticised the industry and alleged that another vtuber from a different agency had her information leaked by a peer, that's completely outside hololives control. the suspension she got for "leaking her avatar prior to her debut" was just a cover up so she could take a break and let the fire die down.


{Mod Edit}: I edited your post. I suggest you leave out the personal insults when making a point. ~ Psycho 101

I don't really see English Hololive working too well. CN and ID hololive have a realistically much higher chance of success and they're not doing amazing so I can't imagine English Hololive would do so well. If it's Americans as well, Twitch culture has basically killed any real interest I would have in such a vtube unless the EN Hololiver doesn't conform that. But most English audiences seem to only like that kinda toxic community now days. That's a big reason I like hololive to begin with - much less toxic. English Vtubers in other companies also don't really do too well. We'll see, obviously, but my faith is low.

MiloTheFirst wrote:

first of all the video that incited the doxxers was one she made in her previous identity as an independent, where she criticised the industry and alleged that another vtuber from a different agency had her information leaked by a peer, that's completely outside hololives control. the suspension she got for "leaking her avatar prior to her debut" was just a cover up so she could take a break and let the fire die down. {Mod Edit}: I edited your post. I suggest you leave out the personal insults when making a point. ~ Psycho 101

The issue still is in these situations it is better to publicly support your talent as well as making strides to protect them instead of trying to appease the harassers in an attempt to let things die down. Their decision to not denouce her attackers means there's a good chance Aloe did not get the support she would have needed to sustain their ongoing harassment, to the point she would feel like she would need to quit. Without that public statement can mean a lot in what Aloe would feel regarding her continued involvement in the scene.

Kougeru wrote:

What happened to Mano-chan was 100% the managers fault for not doing his job and MANAGING her to delete the video. 100% Cover's fault. Her entire career ruined by that. Then there's other idols that have had issues. Cover really needs to step up in...covering for their employees.

first of all the video that incited the doxxers was one she made in her previous identity as an independent, where she criticised the industry and alleged that another vtuber from a different agency had her information leaked by a peer, that's completely outside hololives control. the suspension she got for "leaking her avatar prior to her debut" was just a cover up so she could take a break and let the fire die down.
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"They are not doing amazing"? Well yeah, maybe not the most successful ever thing in planet earth, but they're doing pretty well comparatively.

HololiveCN has 100-200k++ subs in Biribiri, which is not Fubuki number, but still only a bit below the number of 'normal' hololive subs number in there.

HololiveID has 80-120k, which is faaar bigger than any ID vtuber not named Hana Macchia or Andi Adinata (which are both monsters for their own different reasons).

Considering that they are still in the first/second generation and both received pretty unexpectedly well impression from global viewers, I think they must have at least met the initial expectations. ID have announced 2nd gen audition few months ago, so it's clear that the management decides that they want to dig even deeper into the market. Something that I assume they won't be doing that if the numbers are bad.

That will never happen in a Japanese company. Japanese idols are a manufactured product, not a person in their system. They can always just manufacture another idol if one is needed. Considering the past 30 years of this going on in Japan, no one should be surprised at this point, especially not aspiring idols, virtual or otherwise. It clearly doesn't have to be that way, especially if Youtube is the primary platform, and yet people keep signing up for it, all for just a fleeting chance of fame.