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cookiemanstah
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 6:46 am
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NEVER ride motorcycles or bicycles if you value long life. RIP.
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Thespacemaster
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:28 am
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Ah nuts he was still quite young, RIP
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VinceA
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Location: Bayonne, NJ
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:21 am
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A voice of justice has been silenced. RIP Goto-san
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Fred Lougee
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:11 am
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cookiemanstah wrote: | NEVER ride motorcycles or bicycles if you value long life. RIP. |
Heck. Just sit at home on your computer doing nothing. You will probably die at 45 of obesity due to lack of exercise and poor diet but you have never done anything "dangerous" and your life will be so boring and tedious that it will feel like you have been sitting there for at least a century.
SMH.
70 years, 50, 40, 20. Whatever. Life is short. Live it.
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:23 pm
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Keep it civil and respectful folks.
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Actar
Joined: 21 Nov 2010
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Location: Singapore
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:24 pm
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Fred Lougee wrote: |
cookiemanstah wrote: | NEVER ride motorcycles or bicycles if you value long life. RIP. |
Heck. Just sit at home on your computer doing nothing. You will probably die at 45 of obesity due to lack of exercise and poor diet but you have never done anything "dangerous" and your life will be so boring and tedious that it will feel like you have been sitting there for at least a century.
SMH.
70 years, 50, 40, 20. Whatever. Life is short. Live it. |
Way to strawman the argument. I suppose you ride one yourself? Sadly, it is an undeniable fact that riding a motorcycle is 27-29 times more dangerous/deadly than riding a car (depending on the study).
Quote: | Motorcycles have a few major differences that make them inherently more dangerous.
Any motorcyclist will be quick to tell you skill and smarts are key to staying alive and in one piece. And the statistics don't sort out irresponsible motorcyclists from responsible ones. But all motorcyclists start out with some disadvantages. Because they have two wheels instead of four, the driver's balance and driving abilities — including quick reflexes — play a more critical role. And a motorcyclist rides out in the open, rather than inside the steel cage of a car frame. The resulting sense of freedom makes motorcycles so appealing to so many people, but it also comes with risk. And because motorcycles are more difficult to see than cars, they're more likely to be hit by other drivers. Without a car's structural protection, a motorcycle rider involved in a crash is more likely to suffer serious or fatal injuries.
Meanwhile, even as automotive manufacturers develop new technology to make cars even safer, motorcycle manufacturers have fewer options. Motorcycle features such as mirrors with larger fields of view, brighter headlights and motorcycle airbags can help reduce risk of a crash or the severity of an injury. But in general, motorcycles aren't marketed as safer than the previous year's model or the competitor's model, and they lack the technology-driven safety features available in new cars. Motorcycle drivers don't have time to check out a rear-view camera, for example. Motorcyclists can't afford to be distracted by a lane-departure warning. |
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AkumaChef
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:03 pm
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I rode motorcycles for about 20 years but I have since stopped riding on the street. All I do is trackdays now because that essentially eliminates the chance of being hit by a car. Fortunately I have never been in an accident or a collision, but I can tell you that I had many close calls. The visibility problem is very real--on many occasions I have seen drivers look straight at me yet still nearly hit me--and that's on a bright yellow or red bike wearing full, brightly colored, safety gear. The problem got exponentially worse with the proliferation of drivers being distracted by their phones, and that's why I stopped riding on the street. There is no doubt that riding motorcycles is dangerous.
That said, I do think it's a bit silly to say that people should never ride them. Many people take similar (or worse) risks all the time yet seem to think little of it. In my opinion risks are one of those things that everyone evaluates differently. A friend of mine loves to rant about the dangers of motorcycle riding, yet he's one of the worst people I know about driving distracted because of his phone toy (and as actually caused accidents because of it). I believe that if you take two random people you will find that each one engages in at least some behavior that the other considers unreasonably dangerous.
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RhinocerousTrilbies
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:07 pm
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Really sad to hear this. R.I.P
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GX5000
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 2:31 pm
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Being in my fifties it pains me when someone younger dies like this.
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harminia
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:19 pm
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R.I.P to a legend....... thank you for everything
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Zimmer
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:58 pm
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Actar wrote: |
Fred Lougee wrote: |
cookiemanstah wrote: | NEVER ride motorcycles or bicycles if you value long life. RIP. |
Heck. Just sit at home on your computer doing nothing. You will probably die at 45 of obesity due to lack of exercise and poor diet but you have never done anything "dangerous" and your life will be so boring and tedious that it will feel like you have been sitting there for at least a century.
SMH.
70 years, 50, 40, 20. Whatever. Life is short. Live it. |
Way to strawman the argument. I suppose you ride one yourself? Sadly, it is an undeniable fact that riding a motorcycle is 27-29 times more dangerous/deadly than riding a car (depending on the study).
Quote: | Motorcycles have a few major differences that make them inherently more dangerous.
Any motorcyclist will be quick to tell you skill and smarts are key to staying alive and in one piece. And the statistics don't sort out irresponsible motorcyclists from responsible ones. But all motorcyclists start out with some disadvantages. Because they have two wheels instead of four, the driver's balance and driving abilities — including quick reflexes — play a more critical role. And a motorcyclist rides out in the open, rather than inside the steel cage of a car frame. The resulting sense of freedom makes motorcycles so appealing to so many people, but it also comes with risk. And because motorcycles are more difficult to see than cars, they're more likely to be hit by other drivers. Without a car's structural protection, a motorcycle rider involved in a crash is more likely to suffer serious or fatal injuries.
Meanwhile, even as automotive manufacturers develop new technology to make cars even safer, motorcycle manufacturers have fewer options. Motorcycle features such as mirrors with larger fields of view, brighter headlights and motorcycle airbags can help reduce risk of a crash or the severity of an injury. But in general, motorcycles aren't marketed as safer than the previous year's model or the competitor's model, and they lack the technology-driven safety features available in new cars. Motorcycle drivers don't have time to check out a rear-view camera, for example. Motorcyclists can't afford to be distracted by a lane-departure warning. |
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And this is hardly the appropriate time and place to try to make such a point. It comes off incredibly insensitive.
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Actar
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:14 am
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Zimmer wrote: | And this is hardly the appropriate time and place to try to make such a point. It comes off incredibly insensitive. |
I respectfully disagree with that assessment and feel like your indignation is directed towards the wrong comment. Simply highlighting motorcycle safety facts in light of a motorcycle accident (especially in response to another comment) is hardly disrespectful or insensitive by any stretch of the imagination. That's tantamount to saying that telling people "not washing your hands will increase your risk of infection" is insensitive to those who sadly lost their lives due to the new coronavirus.
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XaelOstigian
Joined: 25 Oct 2019
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:04 pm
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Rest in peace in heaven...or kick ass in hell as Inferno Cop! Either way, you left us too soon buddy. We will miss you.
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