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Starwind Amada
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WTF???? STEREOTYPE AHOY!!!! And a giant mechanical man is called a robot. Or a mech. These ain't no super-powered armored mutant soldiers with armor fused onto their bodies. 
Other than that, the article was okay, which is rare for news articles that talk about anime *coughcoughedmontonjournalcoughcough*. |
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Squeek
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Is there some kind of reason companies think they can continue to force Americans to pay for things the Japanese can watch for free in Japan?
$4 per episode?! Assuming you have to pay some kind of cable fee to see anime in Japan, isn't it the same here for paying the Cable Internet fee to download it? (I highly doubt anyone on 56k downloads anime once a week...) It's actually cheaper to pay for the Cable fees alone than it is to download an entire season of the average show (26 episodes * $4 a pop = $104). In fact, it's actually cheaper to get that overpriced DVD! This has always boggled my mind. I can understand DVDs (though they are still far too overpriced for my tastes), but currently-running series in Japan are practically free-to-watch there, so why must companies try to milk all of the money out of a small minority of people who actually enjoy watching these shows? |
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ACDragonMaster
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Wow, that article was refreshingly accurate. In fact, the only factual inaccuracy I found is that a standard anime "season" is traditionally 26 episodes, not 52, and recently there seems to be a lot more stuff just going for 13, even. But they can be forgive for that flub.
I won't make any comments though about ADV being such a "dominant" force in the industry, oh not~ *whistles innocently*
Hate to break it to ya, dearie, but although those are stereotypes they exist for a reason. Anime is universally known for it's large "saucer-eyed" characters, and the article is true that female characters seem more likely to have especially large eyes than male characters, who sometimes are let off with narrower eyes. And "giant mechanical man" IS a way to describe a humanoid giant robot, if a slightly dated one. |
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Case
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On the other hand:
...I was inclined to say that, finally, someone in the mainstream media has done their homework before writing about my favorite subject. (Excepting, of course, feature stories, which are held to a different standard altogether.) Perhaps that first comment was intended to be tongue-in-cheek? Most people who have been exposed to anime once would understand what he's talking about, right? |
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Beatdigga
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Good article. LOL at calling cosplayers "An elite".
So, what can the music executives learn from the anime industry? |
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Case
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Your thinking is too self-centered, friend. It's not about how much YOU pay, it's about where the money goes. When you buy a DVD, it pays off the manufacturer's investment (encouraging them to continue giving money to people who can make anime) and perhaps a bit of it goes directly to royalties to pay the creators themselves. When a Japanese viewer pays their cable bill, it works similarly. For broadcast TV, the price you pay is the viewing of advertisements. When you pay your cable internet bill, about the only thing the money goes into is maintainence for your ISP's network. They don't pay licensing fees for any media that gets transported over their wires. That's why downloading (music & movies) is not legal. Last edited by Case on Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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PantsGoblin
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That exact same line was used to describe anime in the previous Fortune article. In fact, now that I look at it, a lot of the same lines were reused. Last edited by PantsGoblin on Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:06 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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ACDragonMaster
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Wow, here we go again. Look fella, Japanese DON'T get their anime for free. Even if Japan had free broadcast tv like the US (and from what I've heard, Japanese pay a certain fee just to have a tv at all, let alone cable and such), and only watched whatever very limited anime is shown on that, they're still technically supporting it through advertising revenue. You know, all those ads that then people might go out and buy it? The only people getting it for free are those downloading it. And $4 an episode? *snorts* You'd rather pay $25 a shot? Because I've see R2 DVDs that cost $50 a piece for only 2 eps. Sorry, but you aren't entitled to having all your stuff for free. Yes, you can find ways to get it for free, but call it for what it is and not what you want to pretend it to be.
*glances at the username* No, no I don't think that was tongue-in-cheek. Some "fans" are just like that, y'know.
Heck yeah we're elite.  ^^b
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Walkabout
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God, is overseas licensing fees that mysterious a concept? Japan has to pay way more for their stuff than we do for the same product, for example, volume one of Big O second series cost $30 in Japan, how many episodes did it have, you may ask? 1 Their economy is not really that great when it comes to these kinds of products, we should be lucky to get them for what we do.(Though thanks to seller networks on eBay, Half and Amazon I never have paid full MSRP) You see, anime is almost solely a fan-run enterprise, and it makes it an astounding leap that any company can survive on just the fans, which is why, since they have in fact survived, many will actually listen to "us." Sure, you could argue that you'll pay as much for, say, the first season of Lost as you will for eight episodes, at MSRP, of anime, and that hurts, but be thankful we even have the opportunity. I hate to say this, but this is probably going to be the only Golden Age of anime we'll see in our lives, things will have to go downhill sometime, be glad we can enjoy the abilities and company care we do. But hey, that, after all, is just me. |
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Kenshin5000
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That's because this article is really just an edited version of the Fortune article. Notice the "From FORTUNE" line underneath the date the article was posted. Granted, it's not exactly the same, as most of it is rewritten. But there's nothing new here. Just a lot more exposure as it's on CNN's site instead of Fortune's. |
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PantsGoblin
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I knew that it was. It's just that people are acting as if this stuff hasn't been said before. I thought they would have been a little more original too. |
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one3rd
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It's just a condensed version of the Fortune article that was linked a few weeks ago.
http://www.fortune.com/fortune/print/0,15935,1134596,00.html |
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Eos
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There are probably some fans of "Lost" or "Monk" in Japan complaining about the same thing. In general TV shows are made for airing in the country they're produced in It's a matter of luck if you live in the country of the shows you like. It's like the Rolling Stones said, "you can't always get what you want." |
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halo
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Yes, it's called Intellectual Property laws. No one is forcing you to pay for anything, if you don't want to pay then you can watch what's on American TV (or whatever country you live in.) |
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Tempest
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First off, None of your Internet bill makes it into the hands of anime producers. Whereas a (small) portion the Japanese cable TV bill does, not to mention ads and what not. The Japanese people don't watch "free" anime for free. Someone else, the advertisers, ultimately pays for it. When will self-entitling anime fans realise that it costs money to bring anime to them, without the $4 per episode, or whatever it costs, the anime won't be professionally translated and distributed. And even if you're happy enough with fan-subs, without money from America, the anime industry in Japan would be in big trouble, like it was in the early 90s. Despite the underlying failure in your logic, you do hint at an important point. Many anime fans aren't willing to pay that much for anime. So the industry has to figure out a way to deliver anime to you more affordably. Internet VOD is one of the methods they're going to look at, and its going to take them a while to figure out a good price point. $4 and episode was just a hypothetical figure, at this point its way to early to tell what the final amount will be, but $4 doesn't seem particularly unreasonable to me. Its less than Japanese fans pay for the latest PPV anime. If the industry is unable to find a price point that fans are willing to pay, covers industry's costs and turns a bit of profit, the industry will ultimately fail. Its in their best interest to find something that works, and its in your best interest too. If they fail you get less anime (because Japanese broadcasts & sales alone haven't been able to sustain the industry for 10 years now). So its in your best interest to find an amount that you are willing to pay to watch anime, and convince the industry that amount is reasonable. Trying to convince them that they should give it away for free, unless you can figure out a way they can make enough money out of giving it away for free, is a complete waste of time. -t Last edited by Tempest on Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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