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Zendervai



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:32 am Reply with quote
I know the process is slightly easier in Canada, if only because there's usually at least one Cineplex theatre in the vicinity of a population centre. If you want special showings right across Canada, go talk to Cineplex. My area doesn't get stuff very much though because there's only one Cineplex theatre and since it doesn't really do matinee showings on weekdays, they really don't want the big movies muscled in on. The exception are things on Sunday at 12:30 pm. The Ghibli Festival stuff is getting shown then, and it's also when I saw No Game No Life Zero.

I have seen the occasional thing at the local Landmark (Shin Godzilla was shown there, and the Kanberi of the Iron Fortress compilation movie screening was there. I didn't go see Kanberi, but Your Name was showing at exactly the same time at the Cineplex. Sorry, but Your Name won out.) but they're actually open for more than six hours a day, so they can probably afford to deal with that. I know Shin Godzilla was completely packed.
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......... Wait, didn't I send this question in a long time ago? Wasn't it already answered? Did you repost an old article or something? Am I having a bad case of deja vu? Or am I just crazy? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:42 am Reply with quote
Vaisaga--
I thought it was you! Cool
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:47 am Reply with quote
It was the weirdest moment when I went "Oh hey another Peter from Windsor....... WAIT I WROTE THAT!"

But yeah, turns out I wasn't crazy!
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Primus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:50 am Reply with quote
There seems to be a core of about 6 Ontario Cineplex locations that always get anime/anime related screenings. Some of them aren't large markets, so it's always a bit of a surprise.

zendervai wrote:
I have seen the occasional thing at the local Landmark (Shin Godzilla was shown there, and the Kanberi of the Iron Fortress compilation movie screening was there. I didn't go see Kanberi, but Your Name was showing at exactly the same time at the Cineplex. Sorry, but Your Name won out.) but they're actually open for more than six hours a day, so they can probably afford to deal with that. I know Shin Godzilla was completely packed.


Landmark seems to only get exclusive runs (Kabaneri, Yu-Gi-Oh! DSOD*) if Cineplex has already been booked. They have very few locations in big cities outside of western Canada, so Cineplex is usually the default.

*4K eventually landed a Toronto Cineplex location, but that was the only exception.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 12:04 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga--

Fascinating in more ways than one.....

That column is from August of 2014. The third question in that column is this:
Branko wrote:
In the past, you mentioned Japan has more of rental based culture for home videos than a buyer one, which is why most anime DVDs are so expensive and target a small, hardcore niche of collectors. As such, I wondered what effect, if any, Netflix would have on the anime industry if/when it moves into that territory? I imagine anime would be a significant part of its roster of content to be competitive with local video streaming sites like Niconico.

Asking about Netflix in Japan back then seems pretty prescient.
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GanNingKino



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I really do try not to be offended by silly things, but calling the Midwest WASP-y was pretty snarky and not that accurate, either.

Just because we're not on a coast doesn't mean you can insult us.
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When it comes to bigger chains like AMC or Regal, the theater owners will decide if the film is a good fit for a specific location based on a) how many auditoriums are being taken up by big Hollywood blockbusters on a given weekend, b) the socioeconomic and ethnic makeup of a specific location -- WASPy areas in the Midwest are less likely to support "foreign" content than larger cities with a more diverse, and frankly, Asian population. Like the smaller Mom 'n' Pop theaters, they'll also take into account how well anime bookings have done in the past, although the personal interest level of that theater's staff is not a factor, since the big chains don't do much grass-roots advertising.

It's silly assumptions like the aforementioned which stunt the anime industry's growth in the West, along with neckbeard fandom who think something becoming more "mainstream" and tainting its pseudo-indie feel is a bad thing. Frankly, if an area can support showing foreign films, it can certainly support anime in said category. Cities with a considerable foreign population might seem correlated, but it's meaningless in today's global digital age. With regards to Asians, anime releases are far more widespread in their countries, obviously from Japan's regional cultural influence, but show alongside other foreign and domestic films.

I wonder if Hollywood will end up crashing because of all the politically correct bullshit it's excreting, and because certain recent scandals. The last time it did circa mid-1960s to 1970s, theaters resorted to everything from porno to church services and live shows (still prevalent with stand-up comedy). Auditoriums sitting empty creates opportunities for stuff like more anime releases. I mean, I see quite a lot of advertising for tribute runs of Classic Hollywood films when seeing anime films showing every so often.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:14 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
......... Wait, didn't I send this question in a long time ago? Wasn't it already answered? Did you repost an old article or something? Am I having a bad case of deja vu? Or am I just crazy? Shocked


Yeah, it hasn't been too long since we've had this answered. You're not crazy.

Don't feel like the question was entirely answered either, which was more specifically asking why weird locations, like Windsor, or near me, in Winchester(literally the middle of nowhere, look it up on a map. It's two hours from DC, and that is the only population center nearby, which already has its own showings of pretty much everything), get theatrical showings while places like Indianapolis or Chicago don't.
Yes, like he mentioned, if stuff does well, you'll get more of it there, but it's weird for some of these locations to have showings, to begin with. Also makes me wonder if these larger metropolises that don't get showings are just charging considerably more than the showings are worth, while places that get a lot of showings, have more reasonable four-walling costs.
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zrnzle500



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:42 pm Reply with quote
relyat08 wrote:
Yeah, it hasn't been too long since we've had this answered. You're not crazy.

Don't feel like the question was entirely answered either, which was more specifically asking why weird locations, like Windsor, or near me, in Winchester(literally the middle of nowhere, look it up on a map. It's two hours from DC, and that is the only population center nearby, which already has its own showings of pretty much everything), get theatrical showings while places like Indianapolis or Chicago don't.


I don't think that Windsor is that weird. "That city across from Detroit" seems like a good location in that you can get people from the Detroit area without actually having it be in Detroit itself. Actually after looking it up on a map, it becomes even more apparent. When one says it is across from Detroit, it is right across from Detroit. Like you would only need to cross one bridge from downtown Detroit, and you're there. To me it seems weird that they wouldn't have locations there.

Can't really say the same about Winchester though. It is in Northern Virginia, which is the most populous region in the state, but Fairfax is closer to most parts of the region, which is where I've gone most of the time. It does have a theater from a chain that regularly gets anime movies (Alamo Drafthouse), but there is another theater in that chain that is closer to the heart of the region too. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 2:43 pm Reply with quote
GanNingKino wrote:
I really do try not to be offended by silly things, but calling the Midwest WASP-y was pretty snarky and not that accurate, either.

Just because we're not on a coast doesn't mean you can insult us.


Hey you could always retort by whining about coastal elites eventhough not everyone who lives on the eat or west coast are "elites".
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:16 pm Reply with quote
While I cannot comment on the American situation I would imagine larger cities often charge more for a showing (being closer to more potential customers), so by picking a smaller population centre nearby a much larger city means you could save some money while being close enough to fans of the genre.

A British example, anime is more heavily advertised in Derby than Nottingham (even though the latter is roughly three times bigger or so and as a substantial Asian student population), I have had the Shaft Fireworks film advertised when I went to see Blade Runner and Thor (and many others before it). The local HMV also packs twice as much anime DVD/Blu-rays. It is a different situation in the UK though as everything is much, much closer.
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Primus



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:59 pm Reply with quote
Cineplex Peterborough is a perplexing one for me. It's become one of those 6 locations in Ontario pretty much guaranteed to get most anime films. Peterborough's population is below 100k. The closest big city is Ottawa, which is neither that close or that big and always gets its own screenings anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:28 pm Reply with quote
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How well an anime title does SIGNIFICANTLY plays into a theater's decisions to book more of them, so by all means -- turn out to support anime in theaters if you want that to continue.

I'll do so once an anime movie I actually care about seeing plays at one of my local theaters. I would've gone to see Yo-kai Watch: The Movie back in October 2016, but I couldn't because:

1. I didn't have my driver's license yet, and my family was quite busy on the day of the screenings
2. The screenings were too far away from my house
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:04 pm Reply with quote
zrnzle500 wrote:
I don't think that Windsor is that weird. "That city across from Detroit" seems like a good location in that you can get people from the Detroit area without actually having it be in Detroit itself. Actually after looking it up on a map, it becomes even more apparent. When one says it is across from Detroit, it is right across from Detroit. Like you would only need to cross one bridge from downtown Detroit, and you're there. To me it seems weird that they wouldn't have locations there.


Michigan usually has their own screenings though so it's not really necessary for Americans to make the trip (I'm actually going to Michigan to see Heaven's Feel later this month). If Americans do come over it's to gamble at our casino and take advantage of our younger drinking age Laughing
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