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Deynard21
Joined: 30 Dec 2016
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:31 am
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Sometimes I see synopsis of upcoming manga and it is lame as fudge. I wonder if people in Jump really can't predict that some fantasy bullshit with unoriginal plot won't be hit? Are they stupid or something?
Like in upcoming 6 new titles only 2 looks ok, rest will be canceled in no time.
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HueyLion
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:34 am
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PFFFF It got axed in the end..Just wow
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BlueAlf
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:04 am
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Deynard21 wrote: | Sometimes I see synopsis of upcoming manga and it is lame as fudge. I wonder if people in Jump really can't predict that some fantasy bullshit with unoriginal plot won't be hit? Are they stupid or something?
Like in upcoming 6 new titles only 2 looks ok, rest will be canceled in no time. |
I think it's because what decides it in the long run is its development.
Even a new title with a unique and interesting premise will still end up axed if the author fails to keep it interesting on a weekly basis. (Damn. I got reminded of Psyren all over again.) Weekly needs to be emphasized here, considering how taxing their work is. In my opinion, both Naruto and One Piece also started with ordinary-sounding ideas in summary too.
Besides, maybe Jump's been having a shortage of good new authors or something.
In my opinion, both Amalgam of Distortion and Demon's Plan actually had pretty decent ideas. Amalgam, sadly, quickly became bizarre right after the beginning. Demon's Plan, while seemingly unremarkable plot-wise, actually packed an emotional punch for some people. I'm a bit sad to see both end.
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Nekelen
Joined: 15 Feb 2017
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:31 am
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Read the first chapter of demon plans and i knew this was gonna happen LOL, Never read Amalgam of Distortion but i see no point in reading it now just like the previously cancelled red sprite.
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Thorfinn
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 6:10 am
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And nothing of value was lost.
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Snakebit1995
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:44 am
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Always sad to see someone's work end, especially against their will, Demon's Plan was just starting to get good too.
JUMP's been a little ruthless this last year or so, I think they're losing a few interesting series due to a lack of patience to let them develop. Rome wasn't built in a day and One Piece didn't become one of the greatest Series of all time in it's first 12 chapters, if anything those are most of it's weakest points. One Piece survived back then on sheer luck of people being hungry for a Shonen.
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SleepyDave
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:27 am
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It's always sad to see manga series ending this fast In my opinion Demon's Plan is actually pretty good and has a lot of potential, same goes for Amalgam, but it got weird after the first chapter xD
I also don't understand, why they keep adding new manga series, of which one maybe two survive longer than a few months. I don't see any potential in those new upcoming titles, maybe RobotxLaserbeam but only because it's Tadatoshi Fujimaki.
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Desertking22
Joined: 07 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:51 am
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The first one I was getting into....the second I can honestly say it was very Dgrayman feel for some reason....it's just sad most of these jump starts never make it. The only one that seemed to have really made it thus far is Black Clover, The Promised Neverland. I am enjoying the new one about the one student who has to tutor the two girls in subjects they are horrible at but they are geniuses in the others subject.
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Parsifal24
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:57 am
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I read the first chapter of Amalgam of Distortion it was okay but never continued after that and I never read Demon's Plan. I like the idea of Jump giving a new series a chance to grow but so far the only series off the top of my head that has had any real staying power is The Promised Neverland. I originally signed up as a subscriber to read Love Rush! An that got canceled after 14 chapters.
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Hawkmonger
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:24 am
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Demons Plan was pretty novel, with some gorgeous visuals. A pity.
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FilthyCasual
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:03 am
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Tried reading Demon's Plan, but it didn't hold my interest.
Hopefully We Can't Study and U19 go well, their first chapters was engaging.
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lady-leen
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:37 am
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all the new manga in Jump are ending quickly! what's wrong? are they all so bad? well I'm reading both of these and read red sprite! it's true it's not great but it's not bad too! I find them enjoyable! but nothing is gonna continue!
the only new manga that is still continuing and doing good is "the promised neverland" even the sales of the volumes are so good for a new manga! I guess that's why it's still ongoing + the plot is interesting and new for the usual Jump stories!
I hope at least for something good to appear among the new 6 titles that is coming especially that we have 2 popular authors! I'm looking forward for the new manga of Beelzebub's author! since I loved Beelzebub a lot and it's one of my fav manga ever!
the new manga of Kuroko's author I'm not so excited for it since I don't like Golf but I will give it a chance just for the author!
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lossthief
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Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:46 pm
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lady-leen wrote: | all the new manga in Jump are ending quickly! what's wrong? are they all so bad? well I'm reading both of these and read red sprite! it's true it's not great but it's not bad too! I find them enjoyable! but nothing is gonna continue! |
this is standard operating procedure for WSJ really. They'll introduce new series, give them 15-20 weeks to get some level of reliable readership, and if they can't then they get the axe. Of the 12 new series introduced in 2015 only 2 (Black Clover and Samon the Summoner) are still running. 2014 has 14 new series and only My Hero Academia and Hinomaru Sumo are still running.
Amalgam and Demon's Plan both had decent starts IMO (I never read past the 3 chapters each that Viz translated) but it's not surprising they're the first to go considering their rankings. I expect Ole Golazo won't be far behind them
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leafy sea dragon
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:38 am
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Deynard21 wrote: | Sometimes I see synopsis of upcoming manga and it is lame as fudge. I wonder if people in Jump really can't predict that some fantasy bullshit with unoriginal plot won't be hit? Are they stupid or something?
Like in upcoming 6 new titles only 2 looks ok, rest will be canceled in no time. |
Sometimes, those generic-sounding series make it big. Black Clover is a good example of that.
Not everything should be the witty, subversive, deconstructive stuff. There's got to be straightforward series too, both as an entry point for beginners and as something for these other series to subvert and deconstruct.
Nekelen wrote: | Read the first chapter of demon plans and i knew this was gonna happen LOL, Never read Amalgam of Distortion but i see no point in reading it now just like the previously cancelled red sprite. |
Both of them weren't too remarkable in their first chapters, but personally, I liked the body horror element in Amalgam of Distortion, and that was the one I was hoping would get to stay in the magazine. That being said, it reads like something some angsty teenager would produce, so I have doubts the author could've kept the series going for very long.
Demon's Plan felt too much like Zatch Bell!, only in poverty and with the strategizaton replaced with hot-bloodedness. I didn't like it too much, but I was up in the air if it'd stay or not. Certainly, of the newly started series, it felt the most "Weekly Shonen Jump" out of all of them, if you know what I mean.
Neither of them hold a candle to Ole Golazo though. It's an awesome read.
SleepyDave wrote: | It's always sad to see manga series ending this fast  In my opinion Demon's Plan is actually pretty good and has a lot of potential, same goes for Amalgam, but it got weird after the first chapter xD
I also don't understand, why they keep adding new manga series, of which one maybe two survive longer than a few months. I don't see any potential in those new upcoming titles, maybe RobotxLaserbeam but only because it's Tadatoshi Fujimaki. |
They're bringing in a bunch of new series because a lot of them have recently finished: Bleach, Gin Tama, Nisekoi, Toriko, Assassination Classroom, and KochiKame, with the author of World Trigger on indefinite hiatus due to crippling arthritis. Hunter X Hunter is on its usual hiatus. Shika High's Competitive Dance Club just reached its natural conclusion last week. Chapters of Isobe Isobee Monogatari are now at half of their previous length. This leaves the magazine a lot thinner than it normally would be, and now it's in desperate need for new series to fill it back up.
Parsifal24 wrote: | I read the first chapter of Amalgam of Distortion it was okay but never continued after that and I never read Demon's Plan. I like the idea of Jump giving a new series a chance to grow but so far the only series off the top of my head that has had any real staying power is The Promised Neverland. I originally signed up as a subscriber to read Love Rush! An that got canceled after 14 chapters. |
Even then, The Promised Neverland feels like a series the author was sure would get canceled, considering there is so much more plot in the first three chapters than in the next ten or so.
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Amalgam and Demon's Plan both had decent starts IMO (I never read past the 3 chapters each that Viz translated) but it's not surprising they're the first to go considering their rankings. I expect Ole Golazo won't be far behind them |
Do you think Ole Golazo will lose steam? I haven't read that much of it, but I like the premise, that a champion in a sport gets talked into joining up on a team for a completely different sport. The marketing for it makes it sound like the most generic soccer series ever though. Have the ratings for Ole Golazo been low?
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bigivel
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:33 am
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Snakebit1995 wrote: | Always sad to see someone's work end, especially against their will, Demon's Plan was just starting to get good too.
JUMP's been a little ruthless this last year or so, I think they're losing a few interesting series due to a lack of patience to let them develop. Rome wasn't built in a day and One Piece didn't become one of the greatest Series of all time in it's first 12 chapters, if anything those are most of it's weakest points. One Piece survived back then on sheer luck of people being hungry for a Shonen. |
Yes it did. One Piece in its 7th chapter even got full colored(by Oda!). Yep, people that read Weekly SHONEN Jump, are obviously hungry for SHONEN. And of all the series in the Magazine, the entire 20 of them, are SHONEN.
Last year was one of the years where jump cancelled less series. And that is why this year started with a big cancellation round.
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