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Chrno2
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:28 am
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Oh man I've never heard of this concept before. Is there really such a thing?
I have to admit the art looks pretty damn slick.
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Sobe
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:32 am
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The manga was adapted into anime shorts, not an anime but anime shorts. However it's a nice and needed change from the harem the industry puts out there every season, no matter how short or long it is.
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Cetais
Joined: 02 Feb 2012
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:36 am
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Sobe wrote: | The manga was adapted into anime shorts, not an anime but anime shorts |
"It's not a game, it's a video game!"
I was looking forward to the anime, but way too many of the jokes were too homophobic for my taste.
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Loveless100
Joined: 18 Sep 2008
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:46 am
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I thought I would appreciate this story, since there's a rise in fudanshi BL nowadays, but it's like the equivalent of liking lesbian porn but not being OK with Gay marriage.
Plus the jokes fell flat REALLY quickly.
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Sobe
Joined: 04 Jun 2011
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:07 pm
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Cetais wrote: |
Sobe wrote: | The manga was adapted into anime shorts, not an anime but anime shorts |
"It's not a game, it's a video game!"
I was looking forward to the anime, but way too many of the jokes were too homophobic for my taste. |
No worries. At least the balance is shifting. And the Japanese don't exactly have same sex marriage as a nation yet (only in some cities but not in full effect either way). We'll just have to wait until AFTER they legalize it AS A NATION to actually criticize the manga should it continue down the same path of jokes and flatness.
Until then it's nice cannon fodder to use against the homophobic anime audience.
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relyat08
Joined: 20 Mar 2013
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:48 pm
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Sobe wrote: |
Until then it's nice cannon fodder to use against the homophobic anime audience. |
Really? I'm with a couple others here with the humor. It seemed more perpetuating a homophobic perspective than anything else..
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wolf10
Joined: 23 Jan 2016
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:04 pm
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relyat08 wrote: | It seemed more perpetuating a homophobic perspective than anything else.. |
That's a problem with the anime adaptation, unfortunately. In the manga, Sakaguchi's quirks are played much more for irony, and there are numerous jokes about his (possible) bisexuality that the anime has taken great pains to avoid.
I mean, I was reading BL and telling myself I was straight at that age, so to me it's still fairly relatable.
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Cetais
Joined: 02 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:57 am
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wolf10 wrote: |
relyat08 wrote: | It seemed more perpetuating a homophobic perspective than anything else.. |
That's a problem with the anime adaptation, unfortunately. In the manga, Sakaguchi's quirks are played much more for irony, and there are numerous jokes about his (possible) bisexuality that the anime has taken great pains to avoid.
I mean, I was reading BL and telling myself I was straight at that age, so to me it's still fairly relatable. |
I founded it disgusting that in the first episode, the character said he wasn't gay, that he was "normal". You know, instead of saying "straight".
Like, it's about people liking gay fictions, I expected them to not be that homophobic.
Also, everyone's sexuality seems to be erased in the anime, which is it's own kind of disgusting.
(I hope the same thing won't happen with Fuuka!)
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CrowLia
Joined: 24 Feb 2012
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:09 pm
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relyat08 wrote: |
Sobe wrote: |
Until then it's nice cannon fodder to use against the homophobic anime audience. |
Really? I'm with a couple others here with the humor. It seemed more perpetuating a homophobic perspective than anything else.. |
Agree with it too. I watch it because it's three minutes only, but the jokes are never funny and often perpetuate homophobic and heteronormative stereotypes (like when Sakaguchi and his fujoshi friend explain how "the seme does the role of the man and the uke does the role of the woman", or the aforementioned "I'm not gay, I'm normal").
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wolf10
Joined: 23 Jan 2016
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:50 am
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Cetais wrote: | I founded it disgusting that in the first episode, the character said he wasn't gay, that he was "normal". You know, instead of saying "straight".
Like, it's about people liking gay fictions, I expected them to not be that homophobic. |
There's a reason for that, though. Japanese doesn't have an easy slang term for it like English does. "Iseiaisha" (異性愛者) is not exactly a word that gets dropped in normal conversation, and that leaves the loan word "hetero[sexual]," (which a high-schooler wouldn't know), and "nonke" which is slang used by gay men.
So really, you're giving a TV anime grief for running into what is actually a problem with the Japanese language itself making the idea of sexuality extremely difficult to express.
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