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NEWS: 1st Berserk Film's 6-Minute Digest Trailer Streamed


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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:26 pm Reply with quote
I really think they could have made the CGI even more jarring. But seriously, the art looks weird/bad. The design is fine, but the cgi does not meld well with the more traditional animation. Guess I'll save further comments after I see the whole thing though.
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kpk



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:51 pm Reply with quote
CGI looks SO BADDDDD!!! Confused
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keikanna44



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:14 pm Reply with quote
I can't help it but every time I see clips of this movie it looks like a badly animated video game sequence. Anime hyper I like the character designs but the animation doesn't look right to me. I'm praying that the actual movie is better but I'm doubting it now.....

Please don't scar Berserk for life production team. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:02 pm Reply with quote
I see they've decided to switch Griffith from looking like a poofter, like he did in the TV series, to simply looking like a chick. I wonder if he and Guts will give into their innermost desires and go all Brokeback Mountain on us.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:17 pm Reply with quote
Besides fluidity of motion, this looks aesthetically inferior to the television series to me. The computer generated elements are unpleasantly conspicuous, but even the movement of mouths look strange and it's all too clean. I would have expected Berserk to look rougher, dirtier and harsher than this.
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hissatsu01



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:26 pm Reply with quote
Surrender Artist wrote:
Besides fluidity of motion, this looks aesthetically inferior to the television series to me.


Well, you could always hope for a US release for this, but Media Blasters doesn't seem to be in any shape for that these days. I lost any hope for the Berserk movies as soon as I found out it was going use 3DCG for much of the animation of people. Nothing I've seen so far makes me want to revisit that opinion.
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Zump



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:32 pm Reply with quote
Well, at least the CGI looks better than Mike Huckabee's Time Travel Academy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:37 pm Reply with quote
I guess I'm the only one that really liked the art and design. It looks so much like the manga and I think it will look amazing on Blu-ray. We'll see when there it actually gets released.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:41 pm Reply with quote
Bad CG just makes it impossible to get immersed into the production. Like when watching Vandread, the 2D animation is pretty superb for 2000, but the second they switch to the space shots it just becomes garbage and doesn't at all fit. And the CG I've seen for Berserk looks barely a step above what GONZO could do years ago. I would have taken Studio4Cs typical avant garde approach in normal 2D than this.

I honestly find it hard to get exited for the first and likely second films, as I believe the TV anime covered those parts of the Golden Arc pretty damn well and these offer no new experiences, unless you like shoddy CG and a tiny bit more of Zodd. Maybe once they get closer to the Eclipse and they add in the Bakiraka, Skull Knight, and Wyald, my opinion could change, but that's not until the third film. They're basically trying to cover 25 episodes/12 volumes in the equivalent of 14-15 episodes of movie running time. The pacing is going to feel way off, I'm afraid, and I believe the only addition to the TV series that the manga didn't have was that assault on the river fortress with Adon, which was just one episode.

Assuming this project has the funding to continue on, I hope it can improve in all aspects, but to start off in unspectacular fashion might not have been the wisest decision. Maybe they're done with the CG to make them on the cheap and then pour real budget when they move into the post-Eclipse arcs? Who knows.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:57 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Bad CG just makes it impossible to get immersed into the production.
Well can anybody tell me when anime has had any good CG moments? I'm kinda find it surprising seeing so much negative comments about this vid compared to previous vids that ANN has posted.

Can't say I'm too crazy about the CG either but can't say I'm horrified about it. The way I see it, the original show didn't have that great of animation either (kinda like watching an epic picture book), but the reason why i kept watching episode after another was the story and characters themselves. Hopefully that movie will still have that part intact, but i'm just skeptical as walw6pK4Alo here on how well they can tell the story in with that amount of time. hopefully they'll pull a good job on that.
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nightjuan



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:58 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Bad CG just makes it impossible to get immersed into the production. Like when watching Vandread, the 2D animation is pretty superb for 2000, but the second they switch to the space shots it just becomes garbage and doesn't at all fit.


I didn't have much of a problem with the CG in Vandread, to be honest, mostly because it bothers me a lot less when only spacecraft or other futuristic machines are involved. Likewise, I actually thought the use of CG mecha wasn't a big deal in Pailsen Files and a couple of other modern Votoms entries, despite their varying levels of 3D/2D integration. This would never be my first choice, mind you, and I can also understand that not everyone will have the same tolerance for CG even in such a limited capacity.

On the other hand, I will definitely agree that it doesn't seem very wise to use CG for the new Berserk film, where the action is essentially all about medieval/fantasy warfare between human beings and monsters, period, all of whom are organic as opposed to mechanical. I can imagine that would in fact get in the way of my enjoyment of this story, to a greater or lesser extent.

Leaving that specific point aside...in terms of the general production, I simply expect the first movie to suffer from high expectations and growing pains. Given the shorter running time, perhaps it may even end up being the most rushed of the three. Of course, none of that says anything about its Japanese box office performance, which is what matters for determining the fate of this project, nor much about its other qualities/flaws.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:57 pm Reply with quote
I wonder if there's any chance that the final product will look better still. The Zodd scene actually looks really good. A whole lot better than the original version that they showed months ago. Most of the other CG though looks absolutely like ass.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:01 am Reply with quote
Blood- wrote:
I see they've decided to switch Griffith from looking like a poofter, like he did in the TV series, to simply looking like a chick. I wonder if he and Guts will give into their innermost desires and go all Brokeback Mountain on us.

In all seriousness, I've noticed that Griffith seems to be more expressive in the new movie(s) than he was in the anime. In the anime his face was stony and practically unmoving; his changes in expression were subtle, and his eyes always had this icy, distant and unsettling quality to them. He was creepy, and it really helped sell spoiler[his eventual betrayal as inevitable, a product of inner darkness that had existed within him from the very beginning]. Here, he actually smiles, and a big ol' boyish smile too. Makes me think they'll be going for a different characterization, focusing on his friendship (inb4 "lol, 'friendship'") with Guts in possibly a more sentimental way.

Also, that ending song - what the hell is this Celine Dion shit doing in my Berserk? Seriously, who saw Berserk and thought to themselves, "You know what this dark, gory, epic tragedy about war, destiny and vengeance could really use?? A sentimental power ballad."
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:39 am Reply with quote
Seems anime producers will never have enough time or money to please everyone. Based on this trailer, I'll just assume they didn't have 20 years & 20 million bucks to animate it, and fine tune each individual frame. But I'm glad they didn't, because I wanted to see this latest take on the franchise at least once before I'm dead Laughing

It's been years since I've seen the first version, so for this to even get revisited in some manner, is basically just freakin' bonus. Just know I've already seen the likes of (and enjoyed) "Utawarerumono" with its chucky cheesey video game cut scene style battle sequences, and the first part of Initial D with its "No, these certainly aren't anything like the cars you saw in Gunsmith Cats" thing going on. Sure some butt ugly CGI can be distracting and annoying as hell, but it's not a deal breaker, not when the story and characters are what I like about it the most. I'm looking forward to buying a version (R2? BD?) of this eventually.
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Nico1924



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:03 am Reply with quote
Personnally i'm more eager to see the content of this first movie, and i'm a little scared we still haven't seen any scene from Gatsu's youth. Gambino wasnt shown and I am really hoping to see the "tree of death" scene where baby Gatsu is found.
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