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Animefan16
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 5:27 pm
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According to the new issue of Anime Insider, 4kids will be making small edits on One Piece. The producer for the American version said, "I think the biggest challenge is really honoring the series." There will be no name changes. Toei will also be involved in the editing. Toei also approved the voice actors for the dub.
I don't think 4kids has released a dub with "minimum edits" since Pokemon. If the edits are very small, then an uncut version won't be needed like Pokemon. But I haven't seen One Piece yet so I don't know what'll be edited.
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arxane
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:32 pm
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Unlike Pokemon, One Piece has some blood and violence in it (not extreme, but enough not to be suitable for America's TY-Y7 rating). But if 4Kids really is going to make "minimal edits" to One Piece, this should be very interesting.
Of course, people are still gonna want uncut DVDs.
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Ohoni
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Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:59 pm
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I heard that Sanji's going to be chain smoking candy canes.
I'm still wondering how they're going to deal with Captain Smoker.
I really wonder how far into the series they've gotten though. I could watch the first 20 episodes and say "sure, no cuts, no problems", but as the series goes on, things keep popping up that do not scream "saturday morning tv" to me.
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SquidBilly
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:47 am
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As long as an uncut version is made available on DVD... they can make their cuts to the TV version. Tho' the candy cane thing...guh.
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Shorty22
Joined: 09 Aug 2003
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:37 am
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Ohoni wrote: | I heard that Sanji's going to be chain smoking candy canes. |
... you made me choke on my food when I tried to laugh at the thought. I would think that they would just edit the smoking out completely, cigarettes, hands, even arms if necessary, a la Yu Yu Hakusho. Or they could always fall back on the trusty toothpick... but candy canes seem utterly ridiculous.
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keyz13
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:00 am
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In Singapore local tv, they cut out or erase the cigarette from Sanji's mouth, I mean you see his movement like usual but there's no cigarette in his mouth. So most of the time you will see him sort of covering his mouth with his hand (that is suppose to have a cigarette)
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Ohoni
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:23 am
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It's really almost necessary to have something in there (counter-acting reports now suggest it will be a lollipop BTW, not sure which to believe). Sanji's just always got something. The problem is that smoke is often coming out of it, so later in the series it'll become harder to mess with. And I still don't know what they'll do with Captian Smoker, who, for those who don't know is a semi-important reoccuring foil who wears cigars all over his body, constantly has anywhere between one and three of them in his mouth at any given time, and has the gumo-gumo fruit ability, the ability to turn his body into smoke. that guy is a walking CG-editor's knightmare if that's their policy.
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UberTai
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:55 pm
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About Captain Smoker: It is very likely that this section of One Piece will be taken out, considering the circumstances. I remember hearing at one time that this arc in One Piece was a filler created by the animators anyway. Not sure if that is true or not, but if these facts are correct, it is most likely that Captain Smoker will not be making an appearance on the American One Piece.
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ChibiGoku
Joined: 29 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:38 pm
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UberTai wrote: | About Captain Smoker: It is very likely that this section of One Piece will be taken out, considering the circumstances. I remember hearing at one time that this arc in One Piece was a filler created by the animators anyway. Not sure if that is true or not, but if these facts are correct, it is most likely that Captain Smoker will not be making an appearance on the American One Piece. |
Actaully, that was the Apis Story. Which comes right after the Smoker Story.
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UberTai
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:45 pm
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Then my mistake. Still, I think it is very likely that the Captain Smoker arc is cut, as bad as that would be. 4Kids did it with the first season of Yu Gi Oh, why not with One Piece?
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kusanagi-sama
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:50 pm
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Let me guess, 4Kids must be afraid of the FCC, parents and other people who think that kids are going to smoke just because they see a character do it on a cartoon.
Parents need to be more involved with their kids these days, and teach their kids whats right and wrong, and not let TV teach it to them.
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arxane
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:54 pm
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UberTai wrote: | Then my mistake. Still, I think it is very likely that the Captain Smoker arc is cut, as bad as that would be. 4Kids did it with the first season of Yu Gi Oh, why not with One Piece? |
The biggest reason that 4Kids cut the first season of "Yu-Gi-Oh!" is because it had nothing to do with the card game, which if the main reason why 4Kids brought the show over to the US in the first place. Why would 4Kids care about the first season when the seasons dealing with the card games is what really draws in their audience?
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Animefan16
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:07 pm
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kusanagi-sama wrote: | Let me guess, 4Kids must be afraid of the FCC, parents and other people who think that kids are going to smoke just because they see a character do it on a cartoon.
Parents need to be more involved with their kids these days, and teach their kids whats right and wrong, and not let TV teach it to them. |
That's actually possible but rare. I know I used to pretend I was smoking with a pen after watching cartoons where the charaters were smoking pipes, cigars, etc.
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RedvsBlue
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:09 pm
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Quote: | Let me guess, 4Kids must be afraid of the FCC, parents and other people who think that kids are going to smoke just because they see a character do it on a cartoon. |
If that's true then Cartoon Network would be having some problems with Cowboy Bebop.
*I know Bebop and 4kids are not related at all in any fashion*
but still, with the FCC crawling up everyone's behinds today, how does Cartoon Network do it?
Quote: | I heard that Sanji's going to be chain smoking candy canes. |
That's the funniest thing on this board I've heard in awhile
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Emerje
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:38 pm
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Jinchuu wrote: | how does Cartoon Network do it? |
Four things:
1. CB is on a late night adult block
2. CB has an age warning that comes at the top of every hour
3. Shows are rated TV-14
4. It's on cable
This is the exact oposite of what 4Kids has going for it:
1. Saturday morning kids block
2. No reasons for warnings
3. Shows are rated TV-Y7
4. It's on local network television
You're dealing with two toally differnt demographics here. Just because they're both animated, what you're saying is to say that Pokemon should be able to show death and murder because CSI can.
kusanagi-sama wrote: | Let me guess, 4Kids must be afraid of the FCC, parents and other people who think that kids are going to smoke just because they see a character do it on a cartoon. |
Well, that and the fines that the FCC could inflict on 4Kids for showing stuff like that on a kid's cartoon block on network televison; or worse, remove the show.
Emerje
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