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NEWS: Grave of the Fireflies Remastered on Japanese DVD


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Big Hed



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 7:00 am Reply with quote
Hm, I'm a little suprised that they aren't remastering it for Blu-ray. Then again, the movie is rather old, so maybe there's nothing to be gained in terms of video qulaity.
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Pyoko



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:36 am Reply with quote
I'm sure they are planning it for Blu-ray, as there is no point in restoring and remastering anything specifically for DVD (i.e. in non-HD resolutions) at this late stage. They're probably just holding off on releasing it until more people have BD-capable setups, and hoping to get some more sales on DVD while they still have the chance.

And if something was shot on film (which this of course was), and as long as the film reels are still available, then there will be an improvement for Blu-ray no matter how old.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:50 am Reply with quote
sounds like a lot of the work that Justin Sevakis did at Central Park Media is ending up on this DVD.
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Big Hed



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:14 am Reply with quote
Pyoko wrote:
And if something was shot on film (which this of course was), and as long as the film reels are still available, then there will be an improvement for Blu-ray no matter how old.


True, I hadn't thought of that. In light of that, I wonder how well another DVD release is going to sell at this point?

That would be cool though if a bunch of Justin's stuff got on the DVD though! I might have to buy a BD release of this, despite having just picked up the R1 DVD a little while ago.
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:22 am Reply with quote
So... No Blu-ray, and alternate angles... what's the point?...

English subtitles though, and a Japan-quality release. I'm getting it.
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Full_Metal1923



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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 3:18 pm Reply with quote
I hope they bring this version of the DVD over to North America. It's incredibly hard to find the film on DVD, not to mention the extras are certainly a great addition.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:59 pm Reply with quote
Yeah, I can't find CPM's version of the dvd anywhere. Hopefully Disney will rerelease it next year when Gedo Senki comes out.
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:31 pm Reply with quote
I doubt Disney would release it here, because it's dark, and they had enough problems dealing with Mononoke Hime. That, and an "all-American" company distributing a movie which makes us look bad is not going to fly with their "values" shoppers. [If you don't believe me, look what happened when Miramaxe tried to distribute Farenheit 9/11.]
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:48 am Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
I doubt Disney would release it here, because it's dark, and they had enough problems dealing with Mononoke Hime. That, and an "all-American" company distributing a movie which makes us look bad is not going to fly with their "values" shoppers. [If you don't believe me, look what happened when Miramaxe tried to distribute Farenheit 9/11.]


You are, once again, missing the entire point. Grave of the Fireflies is not a film about who was right or wrong during WWII. It is a human drama about young people during a turbulent, depressing time which would happen in any country when defeated during wartime.

Theoretically anyone who doesn't see it in that way and would see it in a "America SUXXXX" way is the sort of people who isn't going to buy it in the first place so could you stop your bigoted nonsense for a second please?

More than a few seconds?
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GATSU



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You are, once again, missing the entire point. Grave of the Fireflies is not a film about who was right or wrong during WWII. It is a human drama about young people during a turbulent, depressing time which would happen in any country when defeated during wartime.


Yes, but that's not how the average American consumer would interpret it. Look how much flack "The Cockpit" got in that review section alone. And that one was a lot more blatant about taking sides, even though it's also about the follies of war.

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Theoretically anyone who doesn't see it in that way and would see it in a "America SUXXXX" way is the sort of people who isn't going to buy it in the first place


That's kind of the point. Disney wants people to buy their stuff, not boycott it. The only time they stood up for something in recent years was their support of gay customers and Ellen. They're not going to do that when they might be viewed as flag-burning commies, though. You should know about black-listing more than anyone, considering your country banned GTA. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:34 am Reply with quote
You're making a gross overassumption of the paranoia that exists in the American film-going, film watching public. While there is some, and some fears of that, most people have the barest common sense not to overreact to these kinds of things.

Subsequently even with the most, non-mononoke/spirited away level marketting that Disney could give, it wouldn't gain that much of a fervour from those types of people. Anyone who would've been looking out for anti-American films to blacklist already had their opportunity, and nothing came of that. One thing you need to learn Gatsu is that not everyone has the same Knee-jerk, yet somewhat thought out paranoid insane reactions you have to everything. A lot of the things you post are so outrageously removed from reality that it's no wonder you're a friendless, jobless internet troll. Sorry, but thats how it is.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:38 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
That's kind of the point. Disney wants people to buy their stuff, not boycott it. The only time they stood up for something in recent years was their support of gay customers and Ellen. They're not going to do that when they might be viewed as flag-burning commies, though. You should know about black-listing more than anyone, considering your country banned GTA. Rolling Eyes


Are you referring to San Andreas or IV? You're wrong either way though since SA was banned in Australia after it was rated, due to the Hot Coffee controversy. IV on the other hand avoided all that and got an edited release. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:18 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Steven:
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You are, once again, missing the entire point. Grave of the Fireflies is not a film about who was right or wrong during WWII. It is a human drama about young people during a turbulent, depressing time which would happen in any country when defeated during wartime.


Yes, but that's not how the average American consumer would interpret it. Look how much flack "The Cockpit" got in that review section alone. And that one was a lot more blatant about taking sides, even though it's also about the follies of war.


I don't think American's are, by and large, adverse to humanity-based nuanced views of conflict at all. Pound for pound, America probably has the most self-critical media in the world.

The issue with folks not thrilled by politics in anime like 'The Cockpit' isn't due to the lack of 'rah rah' American themes, but that culturally the Japanese have a way of being extraordinarily sanctimonious/preachy over issues like war in the general sense, while simultaneously avoiding/white-washing their specific history. That often leaves a flavor less like a broad humanizing work, and more like a culturally specific 'sour grapes' moral relativism.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:05 pm Reply with quote
I would agree with that, to an extent, but it's also true that many Americans are every bit as hypocritical. The GotF listing on Amazon.com has many negative reviews for showing the US in a slightly bad light, and because it doesn't go out of its way to mention Japanese warcrimes.
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Goodpenguin



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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:33 pm Reply with quote
zhir wrote:
I would agree with that, to an extent, but it's also true that many Americans are every bit as hypocritical. The GotF listing on Amazon.com has many negative reviews for showing the US in a slightly bad light, and because it doesn't go out of its way to mention Japanese warcrimes.


To your 'hypocritical' juxtaposition, there's a pretty big difference between internet Amazon movie reviewers and the professional Japanese entertainment/media industry. It's kind of an apples-oranges comparison. Pointing out the avoidance of war responsibility really wouldn't make folks 'hypocrites' (what are they being hypocritical about?) either, it would just indicate missing the broader humanist point of the movie.

Also, looking at the Amazon review page for 'Grave of the Fireflies', it's got roughly 600 reviews and the movies still has an aggregate maximum star rating, there can't be that many people knocking it. In fact looking at the first several pages it's overwhelmingly positive to the 'humanity-driven' angle. At most this sentiment from the official blurb seems to be prominent:
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As in the Barefoot Gen films, no mention is made of Japan's role in the war as an aggressor; but the depiction of the needless suffering endured by its victims transcends national and ideological boundaries. --Charles Solomon


That's really not a negative angle.
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