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niaizneo
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well I've seen the series n i thought it rulz, but when i BOUGHT the movies i was expecting lots of eva action
 . instead death and rebirth was very disapointing for me, but end of eva was too confusing espeacilly with all the naked reis giant and small and at the end when shinji with asuka????????????
.. could some one explain the ending in plain english for me any help is really Appreciated |
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Arkard
 Posts: 677 Location: Poland |
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explain? End of Eva? explain EoE in plain english???? BUAHAHAAHAHAAHAH OMG OMG LOL LOL NO ONE CAN DO THAT Sorry for that I see you are really not familiar with Eva and its little "legend". This Eva movie is probably one of the most confusing anime ever and it is something you must figure out for yourself. It`s not really that hard when you focus on it enough. I had to watch it only 3 times to get the general idea  But still - its impossible to explain it in "simple" words. If course I could just say spoiler["Everyone Died" ] but I wouldnt be fair to this great series. EoE has so much more 
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Burner
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I didn't find it hard to understand at all, but I am super smart after all.
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The Lamb
 Posts: 32 Location: London |
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As mentioned above, one theory argues that:
spoiler[Shinji was a yellow coward, who got scared and doomed humanity to eternity in purgatory by preventing complimentation reaching completion. Only Shinji and Asuka survive because they were in EVAs, and the orange sea of LCL is the gloopy remains of all Earthly life. At the very end Asuka says "hidoi" or something (can't recall) because she know's she's screwed (in the non sexual sense). This is the "Everyone dies" version.] But then again, it could always be that: spoiler[ Complimentation succeeds, and everyone gets to choose the manner in which they spend the rest of eternity. Shinji hates himself, so chooses to live on a replica of the lifeless Earth with the person who hates him the most, Asuka. Earlier in the film she says that even if Shinji were the last man alive she wouldn't sleep with him. So it's ironic that he chooses to be the last person alive with her. Basically, Asuka and the LCL sea aren't real, Shinji just chose the worst thing he could think of because he hates himself (presumably because he's a homoeroticising coward who likes to be abused and hated but is scared of a fully developed woman. This is the "psychological" ending] Finally, there's the third way: spoiler[Which suggest old Hideaki Anno just got pissed of with all the worshiping fans and nasty hatemail - so he just tried to piss them all off. This is the one that comes from spraying graffiti on GAINAX's studio walls and sending death-threats. ]
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kamiboy
 Posts: 570 Location: CA |
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spoiler[
In plain English, Rei puts the fate of mankind in the hands of Shinji and he, upon seeing what complemention looks like, renounces it and so the instrumentality project fails. Thus all individuals who have been joined together in the third impact obtain the ability to become individuals again and come back to life. All that is except for Yui (Shinji’s mother) who planned to stay in the Eva forever from the beginning, perhaps Gendo joins her there, we can’t be sure. As for Rei, she wasn’t really human to begin with, so I guess she won’t return; but then again she might, who knows. As for the last scene, your guess is as good as mine as to why the world, Asuka and Shinji returns to, looks so weird. Maybe that is what the world looks like after the third impact or perhaps that is not the real world at all. Maybe the world will change back to normal after a while or perhaps it is somewhere between the real and the third impact world where Shinji stops by to fetch Asuka, who knows. But Hideaki or some other guy from GAiNAX once explained why Shinji strangles Asuka at the end and why she says what she does. I don't have a link but you could do a search on google or something. Here is a link to site that might clear things up a little: http://evangelion.fateback.com/main.html Make sure you read the translation of the red cross book, it will clear a lot of things up.] Anywaste, personally I think that Anno deliberately made the movies in a way that would piss off all those fans that where pestering him about the original endings. |
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Ramiel_X
 Posts: 131 Location: Portland Texas |
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spoiler[ I always thought that in the end, everyone would evuntually (sp?) come back if they wanted to. As Shinji said, the walls of their hearts (At Fields) would once return and he would feel pain again. But he could finally deal with it. That part was like the ending of the series.] Ofcourse, as someone pointed out, it takes along time to actually grasp a small knowledge of it. I've had it since it came out, I guess last year, and I've watched it more than 30 times and I still try to figure more stuff about it.[/spoiler]
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LW
 Posts: 26 Location: finalsavepoint.com |
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That is why still to this day I hail the original ending as being the better and true ending in my eyes. End of Evangelion posed way to many questions and even though I did enjoy contemplating over them, in the end it was way too confusing. The original ending on the other hand answered most questions and ended in a relatively happy way. Though ADV is publishing the Directors Cut here in the US which will be here soon so it will be interesting to see this third ending, which Anno states is the ending he wanted all along.
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Ramiel_X
Posts: 131 Location: Portland Texas |
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 *Rubs Eyes* Third ending? What?!? Did I hear that correctly? Third ending? On the Director's Cut Episodes? Well, that just gives me more or a reason to buy them.
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kamiboy
Posts: 570 Location: CA |
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Third ending? Aren't the directors cut endings just the original endings with some extra/extended scenes?
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BakaNekoDain
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Thats what i thought as well. I was under the impression it was the handfull of scattered cuts from the japanese version. I bought the bootleg japanese version with the scenes that were cut from the american release (which i have as well) and i didn't witness any difference in the endings.
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Swordfish_II
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The "Director's Cuts" are just episodes 21-24 with scenes from EVA: Death cut back in and a few entirely new scenes. You can find what was added here. Also, End of Evangelion supposedly used the original scripts for episodes 25 and 26, so technically, its the 'true' ending. Though, personally, the movie answered more questions than the series.
___________________________ And at the end of EoE, spoiler[I firmly believe that Shiji and Asuka are the only ones alive at that time. Most likely because during instrumentality, they are the only two inside EVAs and the only two that aren't directly shown or implied to have turned to LCL and had their souls released. But as was stated a couple of times in the movie, people could come back if they wanted to, but remember in the series, when Shiji attained a 400% synch ratio, it took him almost a month to come back.] Last edited by Swordfish_II on Sat Jan 03, 2004 12:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Ramiel_X
Posts: 131 Location: Portland Texas |
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I agree with you swordfish.
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LW
Posts: 26 Location: finalsavepoint.com |
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Sorry for the wrong information then. I just recently found out about the Director's Cut so I must have gotten the wrong info. And has anyone gotten their hands on the extremly rare Renewal Project of Eva? I was curious if they have added anything to the ending and what they added to the series as a whole besides the revamped animation.
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kamiboy
Posts: 570 Location: CA |
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spoiler[I don't know... there is not a hell of alot left of Asuka's eva after the production series are done with it and she is killed before the third impact is started. Which scene are you referring to when you say that they are the only ones directly shown turning into LCL. What about all those scenes with the Rei's showing up as different people and turning people into LCL?
Yeah, the television show endings don’t really explain anything related to the plot at all.] |
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kamiboy
Posts: 570 Location: CA |
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They have the same added scenes as the directors cut dvds that are going to be released in the US soon. They also have revamped sound by the way; if they had English subs I'd buy them for sure. |
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