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Aaron White
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:46 pm
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I saw a movie called Happiness of the Katakuris recently; it's mostly live-action, but it's got a few claymation sequences. Does anybody know of any other examples of japanese claymation?
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Tenchi
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:21 pm
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No idea, but a lot of people don't realize that a lot of the classic Rankin-Bass stop-motion animation (like clay animation, but with models instead of clay) TV specials, like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, were actually animated in Japan, but for North American TV. If Rankin-Bass did these things offshore in Japan in the 1960s, it must mean there's some stop-motion heritage within Japan for Rankin-Bass to choose their expertise.
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CorneredAngel
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:49 pm
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In around 2000, the Smithsonian down here in DC held a series of Japanese animation screenings which included several claymation and "non-anime" animation titles. Would I actually *remembered* what those titles were...
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Carol Maxwell
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:02 pm
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Tenchi wrote: | No idea, but a lot of people don't realize that a lot of the classic Rankin-Bass stop-motion animation (like clay animation, but with models instead of clay) TV specials, like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, were actually animated in Japan, but for North American TV. If Rankin-Bass did these things offshore in Japan in the 1960s, it must mean there's some stop-motion heritage within Japan for Rankin-Bass to choose their expertise. |
That is cool! I did not know that. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was so cool.
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ShellBullet
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:46 pm
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Carol Maxwell wrote: |
Tenchi wrote: | No idea, but a lot of people don't realize that a lot of the classic Rankin-Bass stop-motion animation (like clay animation, but with models instead of clay) TV specials, like Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, were actually animated in Japan, but for North American TV. If Rankin-Bass did these things offshore in Japan in the 1960s, it must mean there's some stop-motion heritage within Japan for Rankin-Bass to choose their expertise. |
That is cool! I did not know that. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was so cool. |
Usually we would not define Rudolf as anime any more than we would define Batman Beyond as anime. It was financed by, made for, and watched by Americans.
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Tenchi
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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 8:24 pm
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I wasn't classifying Rudolph as anime, I was just making the point that, if Rankin-Bass was doing the animation in Japan, there likely would have already been some degree of stop-motion animation in Japan already for them to choose to do them in Japan, since, when any company relocates production of anything overseas, the countries to which they relocate tend to have people with some degree of expertise in producing what the company wants produced, otherwise they'd have to pay for expensive training.
The difference, for me, between Rudolph and anime, is that I'd call one a "cartoon" and the other just "animation", and the reason I wouldn't call Rudolph a "cartoon" is that there are no drawings involved at any stage of the animation process (not counting storyboards).
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