Forum - View topicIs the anime industry in danger of collapsing?
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Kyosuke-sama
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I am well aware that the anime industry is still going stong so please don't throw figures at me [please]. But I'm speaking in a "down the line" way does anyone else feel that the sheer ammount of anime been produced will cause the industry to run dray after all it is a trend after all just as western comics were in Japanese newsapaers in the 30's so what I'm saying is will anime eventually fall through on itself will the next manga generation not be the next manga generation???
There is already too many shows been produced to air on Japanese TV so what becomes of those studios unfortunate enough to not get their show on TV and what happens when studios collapse altogther. I am in no way favourable of the industry dying out and i am not looking for an argument maybe just people's opinions thank you. |
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Iron Chef
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Collapse? I'd say no. After all, Hollywood has managed to churn out the same dreck for years and years after most folks thought we'd have run out of interesting ideas.
Of course, this begets sequels and derivatives, which is what we'll wind up seeing from the anime industry eventually. Forsake innovation for known quantities, line your pockets with copper and move on to the next project. |
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Kanna no Mai
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Anime is immortal!
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Mou Kaoru
 Posts: 298 Location: Simple minds are easily amused. |
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I doubt it. Anime is just now becoming popular in the US, so it's still got a long way to go. The movie industry is still going strong after a century, so I don't see anime industries ready to kick the bucket anytime soon. Fads die and then come back, as they say. I never thought of anime as a fad though. It's entertainment! Perhaps along the way, not much original material will be produced. But who knows, someone always comes up with something new and different.
VIVA LE ANIME |
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Nagisa
Moderator
 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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I'm extremely doubtful. You see, anime in Japan is not just a fad like it is here in the States. It's more a cultural mainstay there, so I don't see Japan calling the entire industry quits anytime soon.
As for running out of ideas and winding up with nothing but sequels & spin-offs, in a way we're already at that point: Gundam SEED, Rurouni Kenshin: Seishouhen, Live-Action Sailor Moon, the new Cyborg 009. Then there are those series that are just the same old formula recycled once more, such as Love Hina & Ai Yori Aoshi recycling the "Harem" concept, and stuff like Gunslinger Girl recycling the "Girls with Guns" concept. However, there are still people creating groundbreaking work during this time, and even these recycled ideas & sequels/spinoffs continue to find massive popularity, so they can't be all that bad, right? But really, in truth, there are no more "new ideas" out there, just new spins on old concepts. So logically everything being made is recycling another concept that came several hundreds or thousands of years before it, it's just a matter of making it good instead of making it "innovative." |
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Nin Gin No Zo
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Well you make a good point. Everything is alredy being recycled but you must also remember that the human mind is one that is very not spontanious but one that is very bland and repetative. If you ever have watched the show "Dead Like Me" you will understand where i'm coming from from episode 12 or 13.
Back to topic: Anime will always be a recycled product since the human mind can't come up with new things very often. But it is my opinion that, and you can quote me, "as long as the world has problems, which it does, and there are people that can think out of the box about these problems, we will always have a good new concept for anime, Live action, Games, etc." The nect anime series might star a group of men fighting a intergalactic war-load like so many, but the creator will always be able to put a new spin on it, or it would have never of been made in the first place. |
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Kyosuke-sama
Posts: 58 Location: Ireland |
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OK so maybe not in the US. However in Japan the industry may not be a fad [bad choice of phrasing] however as pointed out in Even a Monkey Can Draw Manga the "manga era" is over Japanese society [while still upholding certain values] is becoming driven by the youth of the nation and perhaps this will lead to a collapse of industry all together in the near future what I am getting at is perhaps Japan will implode upon itself forcing a collapse of many industreis anime may be here to stay while the older generation of directors, producers etc. are still alive but what about the after math of people like Miyazaki Hayao's death????
Perhaps my point does not make much sense to the rest of you but to me .. Attending a university of manga art [kyoto] next year the situation regarding the youth of japan and it's care but lack of real experience in the industy worries me. Perhaps i have simply thought all this up in my head but....... |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Sojiro the tenken
Posts: 56 Location: North Hills Pittsburgh, PA |
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Anime is not a fad, but though some titles are, like Pokemon probably soon to be Yu Gi Oh. Its impossible for anime to die down. It would be like your imagination dying down. The only thing I see, hopefully, is the dvds getting cheaper.
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Mou Kaoru
Posts: 298 Location: Simple minds are easily amused. |
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Amen brotha!  You can purchase DVD's at a low price if you know where to look (minus bootlegs). It's too bad CD's prices haven't fallen yet. Downloading is the latest fad, after all. 
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trigunner
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Well, it might stop here eventually, but in Japan it is more of a cultural thing than here.
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Gekigangar3
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Is the anime industry going to collapse? In a word no. The anime industry is really just coming into the mainstream in the USA, and as such with the new amount of people putting money into the anime industry, it is doing better than ever. Also with the new advances in technology animation is being produced faster and easier, making new titles easier to release. Anime is also not a fad that will come and go, although some titles within it may be, anime itself has been around too long for people to suddenly lose interest in it. As such I think that the anime industry is in no danger of collapsing any time soon.
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Kidotai
 Posts: 138 Location: one of those islands in the pacific |
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Anime and Manga can be shown to a variety of audiances with varying tastes. I've mentioned before that Initial D is becoming a fast sell to people in the tuning community (and the latest issue of Super Street gave high marks to Initial D Battle 01: Akina's Downhill Specalist), plus anyone notice the Anime influence in the design on the Pink Honda S2000 in 2 Fast 2 Furious?
Roger Ebert reguarlary writes about anime films, most noteably, he has placed Princess Mononoke as one of his top films. Kill Bill Vol 1 does draw some parts of the film from Japanese Anime, even past the animated segments. etc., etc., etc. |
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Arkard
 Posts: 677 Location: Poland |
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No!
And here is why: you see - the majority of anime is based on manga. That itself is no suprise. So - there is a load of new mangas coming out in Japan every week. Plus there are many good mangas that haven't been made into anime. What Iam gettin at? There are maaaaaaaany titles waiting to be animated so the industry itself cant collapse now or ever. They will always have new ideas for production (mainly from manga). So I woudlnt be worried abotu that. My secodn strogn argument still is around the ideas for new production. I see you were afraid that there are too many titles going out every year and that eventually they will become too similar and boring. Well - we shoudl realise that there werwe many topics that the japanese are afraid to do. for example - handicapped people. I mean - how many anime there is that woudl focus on this problem (there is a great manga REAL). Its that because the japanese..... I dont know..... fear this topic? dont like to show weakness? My point is that they stil ahvent explored a great amount of topic that would make great shows/movies/OAVS. so the industry is safe! Its safe asl ogn there will be people with original ideas and I think that they can at least one
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Tempest
 I Run this place.ANN Publisher  Posts: 10468 Location: Do not message me for support. |
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First off, are we talking about the US anime industry here, or the Japanese one?
If we're talking about the US one, then my answer, is no. For now at least. Obviously the danger could appear due to some odd occurrences in the future, but there are none of the signs right now. As for Japan, the answer is "possibly." The Japanese anime industry is cranking out more anime than ever before right now, mostly in the form of TV series, and several studies suggest that the market for all this anime does not exist in Japan. The increase in the amount of anime being produced does not equal the increase in the number of viewers or the amount of anime they are watching (there was an article on this topic in ANN's news a few months ago). This kind of situation is a classic sign of a "bubble industry" an industry that is inflated in one way or another to much more than its true capacity. And as everyone in IT knows, bubbles burst (Note: The IT bubble had to do with Market Cap, this has to with supply > demand). The reason that Japan is producing so much anime is for foreign markets. Many shows probably* don't make that much of a profit in Japan right now (*this is supposition on my part, I don't have any facts or figures on this) but rely on international licensing to make that money back. We already know about shows that are created for the international markets, shows like the Escaflowne Movie, Parasite Dolls and IGPX. As long as the international markets continue to grow and the Japanese producers don't inflate production too much more, the industry is probably safe, but if the international markets don't grow (even if they don't collapse) or Japanese companies continue to inflate production at a rate that the international markets can't keep up with... then Japan's bubble may burst. Which isn't to say that there'd be no anime companies left, there'd just be fewer, a lot would go bankrupt, and investors would be less inclined to invest in the industry for a while. |
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