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Vanadise
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:23 am
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I'm glad to hear this is looking good, although I feel the need to point out...
Quote: | If you're like me and don't enjoy random encounters, you can automate all those “tedious” battles. Like a very simplified gambit system from Final Fantasy XII, every player turn you have the option to automate or manually input commands during combat. Those automated options include choices like “fight aggressively”, “fight smart”, or “focus on healing”. |
This has been a feature of the series all the way back to Dragon Quest IV on the NES, where in fact, in the final chapter, you could only give commands to your main character; the entire rest of the party was always controlled by AI. Nearly every game since then has given you the option to switch between manual input or different AI styles.
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milkyy
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:36 am
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Yes, come the the DQ side
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Amritzer
Joined: 24 Jun 2024
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:46 am
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I wonder in what way have they remade Dragon Quest I.
Not that long ago I played original NES version, and while I really liked it for what it is, it IS very basic (one could say that it is for JRPGs, what Super Mario Bros. is for platformers), and outdated at this point.
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LinkTSwordmaster
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:10 pm
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At the very least, I'm glad someone new is enjoying it. I'd love to recommend some of the other titles in the series, but in truth, full-voice isn't something that all of them have. The writing & accents of each character's regional dialect is always charming to the point that it's a travesty most DQ games are text-only.
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ZelosZoidberg
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:07 pm
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LinkTSwordmaster wrote: | At the very least, I'm glad someone new is enjoying it. I'd love to recommend some of the other titles in the series, but in truth, full-voice isn't something that all of them have. The writing & accents of each character's regional dialect is always charming to the point that it's a travesty most DQ games are text-only. |
And may whatever you believe in help you if you play the 3DS version of DQ7.I spent more time in some dialog boxes than some battles because I couldn't understand what they were saying because in one instance I believe it was European Spanish mixed with heavy what I assumed was Wlesh mixed with Scottish!
Still glad to see more people wanting to try Dragon Quest games! If DQ8 is FFVII, Then depending on who you ask DQIII is considered FFVI or FFIV (DQ V is considered in the conversation). I personally find DQIX heavily underrated in the entire series because it came the closest to being like DQIII.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 7:16 pm
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ZelosZoidberg wrote: | And may whatever you believe in help you if you play the 3DS version of DQ7.I spent more time in some dialog boxes than some battles because I couldn't understand what they were saying because in one instance I believe it was European Spanish mixed with heavy what I assumed was Wlesh mixed with Scottish! |
Not as bad as having Keifer’s sister speaking with a lisp. Which requires at least 3 readings to understand her dialog.
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TsarPlatinum
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 11:48 pm
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I will also never understand why official DQ localization went with the dialog it did. Yangus in 8 was nigh ununderstandable. Do people actually like them giving everyone thick, unpenetrable accents?
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FinalVentCard
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:27 am
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TsarPlatinum wrote: | I will also never understand why official DQ localization went with the dialog it did. Yangus in 8 was nigh ununderstandable. Do people actually like them giving everyone thick, unpenetrable accents? |
At this point, it's part of the presentation. The original Dragon Quest ("Dragon Warrior", in those days) gave everyone faux-Shakespearean Olde English dialogue, which is now canon to the Tantagel region. They've been doing the overdone accents in Dragon Quest ever since Dragon Quest VIII was released on PS2, and for the most part DQ fans (all 20 of us) love it. DQ8 also had the advantage of voice acting to help make the dialogue easier to understand. It's like the puns: DQ isn't DQ without it.
Remaking DQ3 makes a lot of sense, since it's "the big one" for DQ fans. It's the game that made the series actually pop-off, and it's the one that's stuck in cultural consciousness the most (anytime you see an isekai hero with a circlet and a teal outfit: they're channeling the vibes of the DQ3 hero). DQ3 is also the most "sophisticated" of the Erdrick/Roto trilogy; DQ1 and 2 are good, but they're much simpler in comparison (hence why they're packed together so often). Heck, just this weekend I saw Jeremy Parish talk about Dragon Quest 1's localization (and how Nintendo could have avoided a massive loss if they had localized Dragon Quest 3 in the first place instead of the first one).
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KabaKabaFruit
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 10:56 am
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I still call the game Dragon Warrior. It honestly sounds cooler to me.
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AiddonValentine
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:57 pm
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FinalVentCard wrote: | At this point, it's part of the presentation. The original Dragon Quest ("Dragon Warrior", in those days) gave everyone faux-Shakespearean Olde English dialogue, which is now canon to the Tantagel region. They've been doing the overdone accents in Dragon Quest ever since Dragon Quest VIII was released on PS2, and for the most part DQ fans (all 20 of us) love it. DQ8 also had the advantage of voice acting to help make the dialogue easier to understand. It's like the puns: DQ isn't DQ without it. |
And from what I understand, the Japanese versions run the gamut of regional dialects so the decision to use UK lingo and even dub in the UK is because of that.
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Key
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 11:58 pm
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Christian802 wrote: | I find it amusing that this article was posted after the Dragon Quest creator Yuji Horii and former Shonen Jump editor-in-chief Kazuhiko Torishima themselves expressed condemnation of USA and western sensibilities for forcing them to censor the remake, i.e. covering up the girls and changing male/female to body type A/B. The fact that this article is short and sweet means that this was put together to prevent people from knowing it. |
And I find it amusing (actually tiresome) that someone is immediately jumping to conspiracy theory conclusions when a much simpler explanation - that the article's writer didn't attend that interview and wasn't aware of it at the time of writing this piece, and that this piece was written on a quick turn-around - is far more plausible. Also, "condemnation of USA" is a rather particular way to interpret what was in that interview that stretches the intent of Horii and Torishima's words.
Besides, what would be the point to ANN not wanting people to know about it? Please consider if your claims make any sense at all before casting accusations like this in the future.
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FeelMyBlade
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:33 am
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Key wrote: | Besides, what would be the point to ANN not wanting people to know about it? Please consider if your claims make any sense at all before casting accusations like this in the future. |
I agree the interview likely happened after the reviewer played the demo at TGS and expecting it to be mentioned in a random game preview and not it's own article isn't fair but at the same time it seems naive to think personal bias don't come into play when it comes to covering this kind of stuff.
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light turner
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:52 am
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According to Naz Chris they're going to set the record straight with an official English translation of the interview later today. I hope they keep the "compliance is an absolute god, an evil disguising itself as good" line because that went completely hard in response to having to deal with self-censoring yourself to overseas restrictions in the age of global releases. It does make me miss the days Japan makes their own version of games for themselves and then they get localized later on so those people that know Japanese or use fan translations can play the original versions.
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Tony K.
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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:59 am
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Removed a bunch of comments that had nothing to do with the actual Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake game itself. Please talk about the game, not Japan's social issues. None of that is mentioned in the article. Thank you.
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