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HyperGatack
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:25 am
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The more I see the more this looks better than it has any right to
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Glordit
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:29 am
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Doesn't look as sterile as Bebop did, though some of the dialogue is definitely cheese at some points. The costumes/wardrobe still looks unnatural and like professional cosplay to me and Zoro's hair is the worst offender.
I won't be a rush to watch this since I've seen it already, I might give it a watch if it gets universal acclaim.
Quote: | Adelstein stated in a video message shown at Jump Festa in 2017 that the live-action Hollywood television series adaptation of the manga will start with the East Blue arc and will "broaden from there. |
Well first you got to get past Netflix 28-day viewer counts. At the amount of money, they spend on this I would assume they are expecting Stranger Things and Witcher levels.
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Somer-_-
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:58 am
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Looks good! I wish Netflix didn't upload their series in the middle of the night.
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borisdrakoni
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:59 am
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Glordit wrote: | Doesn't look as sterile as Bebop did, though some of the dialogue is definitely cheese at some points. The costumes/wardrobe still looks unnatural and like professional cosplay to me and Zoro's hair is the worst offender. |
Honestly, I'd say that the lack of Usopp's long nose is objectively worse since it was used as the source of a lot of jokes and visual gags throughout the series, and it would have been easy enough to produce a simple prosthetic for it.
Maybe it's my age, but all the trailers I've seen for this just give me massive Hook vibes, with similar levels of camp. To really pull off camp successfully, though, the actors have to be able to play it completely straight without acting like they're in on the joke, which is where I think a young and relatively inexperienced cast is going to potentially struggle.
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Hal14
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:14 am
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borisdrakoni wrote: | but all the trailers I've seen for this just give me massive Hook vibes, with similar levels of camp. To really pull off camp successfully, though, the actors have to be able to play it completely straight without acting like they're in on the joke, which is where I think a young and relatively inexperienced cast is going to potentially struggle. |
If thats what you think camp is then Hook is a poor example. How can you watch scenes like the food fight or baseball match and not think the actors were absolutely in on the joke.
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mooseV01
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:27 pm
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borisdrakoni wrote: | Honestly, I'd say that the lack of Usopp's long nose is objectively worse since it was used as the source of a lot of jokes and visual gags throughout the series, and it would have been easy enough to produce a simple prosthetic for it. |
Some aspects of anime have no business in a live-action version no matter how easy it would be to reproduce it. Usopp’s long nose is one of those things. It’d look too tacky to work in live-action, it’s better being cut out and the jokes rewritten. This isn’t going to be a 1:1 conversion anyway. It can’t be. No live-action version of anything can be a 1:1 conversion. Nor does that mean it’ll be bad.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:33 pm
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A shame that they couldn´t get funding for let´s say 10 eps to give more breathing room and get Loguetown in there (an awkward way to S2 if you ask me) but we are set for a good time tomorrow it seems. The sets and costumes are the real winners so far.
The Witcher and Stranger Things had their seasons topped out at 8 to 9 eps but ST S4 is entra length, so slightly longer seasons might be possible if this takes off. The Sandman even managed to claw out 11 eps. The luxury! Netflix Piece is technically a British production so the strikes can´t delay pre-production too much. We´ll see.
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borisdrakoni
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:06 pm
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Hal14 wrote: | If thats what you think camp is then Hook is a poor example. How can you watch scenes like the food fight or baseball match and not think the actors were absolutely in on the joke. |
Because as goofy as those scenes are, the performances that really carry them, particularly by Williams and Hoffman, are neither egregiously over the top nor played simply for laughs. Each scene serves the underlying themes of the film, and the characters' behavior during them remains consistent with how they were written. The actors are not trying to ham it up the whole time just because they are having fun with the role. To make an inherently silly setting believable to an audience, it has to be treated seriously.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:30 pm
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The more clips I see, the more cautiously optimistic I feel. This feels like it has the spirit of the series I've loved for over 15 years.
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:49 pm
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I'm willing to give it a chance.
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Beatdigga
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:05 pm
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It’s clear that production wise, Netflix was not kidding when they earmarked this as a potential Stranger Things replacement, which was part of that effort from all the streamers to fill the Westeros sized hole Game of Thrones left after that belly flop of a last season. If that can translate into an enjoyable product, One Piece might finally become as mainstream as ST and Game of Thrones.
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MarineCorps
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:18 pm
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My biggest issue with what I've seen so far is the actor for Luffy, he plays it too straight and introspective. "I think that went well, don't you?" doesn't come off right, more likely I can see Luffy laughing while saying "that went well" or "that was fun" Luffy goes with the flow and does what first pops into his head.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:22 pm
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MarineCorps wrote: | My biggest issue with what I've seen so far is the actor for Luffy, he plays it too straight and introspective. "I think that went well, don't you?" doesn't come off right, more likely I can see Luffy laughing while saying "that went well" or "that was fun" Luffy goes with the flow and does what first pops into his head. |
Oh, hah -- I was literally just about to reply saying basically the same thing. I feel like this Luffy isn't as over-the-top goofy, whimsical, or chaotic as I'm accustomed to.
But, gods help me, I'm actually finding myself wanting to give it a chance. Fool me once, shame on me; fool me 36 separate times, probably you're a live-action anime I never asked for...? Even Zoro's absurd sword-in-mouth nonsense looks kind of cool, somehow.
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BluesPro
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:24 pm
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borisdrakoni wrote: | Honestly, I'd say that the lack of Usopp's long nose is objectively worse since it was used as the source of a lot of jokes and visual gags throughout the series, and it would have been easy enough to produce a simple prosthetic for it. |
Look at Arlong. For this crew there's nothing easy about making prosthetics that don't look embarrassingly awful.
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Pokenatic
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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:23 pm
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Honestly, when they first announced this adaptation, I absolutely couldn't believe that it would ever have a chance in hell to not suck. However, after all the promotional videos, I can't help but want to root for the series, cautiously optimistically for it as I am currently. Can't wait for it to drop tomorrow!
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