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penguintruth
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 5:27 pm
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Congratulations, Satoshi/Ash! What a team!
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Hoppy800
Joined: 09 Aug 2013
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:02 pm
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Pokemon needs a reboot now, since Ash is a Pokemon Master.
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IceKirby
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:02 pm
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I appreciate ANN for being careful with spoilers. I already got spoiled for this because other sites simply didn't care and put the result directly in the title.
And that was a heck of an episode. And not only this episode, but the whole Masters 8 arc was superb. I had stopped watching around mid-Johto but kept checking the games, so while I didn't know much about the anime plot itself, I had a fair idea about the important characters. And seeing all those champions in a single tournament was amazing.
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JoelBurger
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:09 pm
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Hoppy800 wrote: | Pokemon needs a reboot now, since Ash is a Pokemon Master. |
The anime went out of its way earlier to say that winning the Masters 8 doesn't make you a Pokemon Master. And on a meta level the tournament just ended up making every champion not named Leon and Cynthia look like a huge loser, so it's also not that much of an accomplishment in general.
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#sukkar
Joined: 19 Nov 2014
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:09 pm
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Seriously, mad props for keeping the spoilers well hidden, even the official twitter account didn't do that.
I'm super interested in where the anime goes from here. The next generation starts in a week and we still don't know anything about a follow up series or arc.
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Soulwarfare
Joined: 10 Dec 2017
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:19 pm
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#sukkar wrote: | Seriously, mad props for keeping the spoilers well hidden, even the official twitter account didn't do that.
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The thumbnail on this article spoils the winner though
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Rosiero
Joined: 05 Jun 2013
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:29 pm
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While Ash is indeed now the best, it is incorrect to say that he is the best like noone ever was, as previous champions exist.
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John the Dark Lord
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:41 pm
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Call me a fool for still believing this if you want, but I think Ash may finally be retiring as the main characters of the show. Maybe he will be kept as a mentor for the next MC, or maybe he will finally leave. But regardless of what Scarlet and Violet bring, this battle just screamed "Grand Finale" for me.
Every companion Ash had is shown watching his battle, and Pikachu gets his own "Shonen Power of Friendship" moment where he remembers every Pokémon Ash has ever caught, including those he doesn't even own anymore. Oh, and they played the first opening theme at the climax of the battle. I'm having trouble picturing a more "Grand Finale" battle than this.
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Somer-_-
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:42 pm
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Great episode. Choked up seeing the OG team and the others support Pikachu in the final bout.
I have to say his current team probably has the more characterization and camaraderie than any other generation. They all have personality and get a chance to shine.
Wonder where the anime will go now...
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malvarez1
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:42 pm
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Well, I'll be.
I know people always say this, but it really wouldn't be surprising if they switch out Ash after this season. I'm not sure how you top this. The episode had cameos from every single one of Ash's human companions and Pokemon throughout the years, and had the original theme song as an insert song. That all screamed "final" to me.
But then again, Ash and Pikachu are money makers,
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JoelBurger
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:45 pm
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Somer-_- wrote: | I have to say his current team probably has the more characterization and camaraderie than any other generation. They all have personality and get a chance to shine. |
His current team were barely ever on screen together because of the show's format, they have basically no camaraderie. Same with characterization, where Ash taking a backseat to Go for most of the show meant that we barely got anything from his Pokemon. Like seriously try to tell me anything about his Dragonite or Dracovish.
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Eternal Dragon Of ChaOZ
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 6:53 pm
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Please be the end of Ash & Pikachu.
It's been 25 long years.
Definitely time to move on from them.
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Teraman
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:33 pm
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Not that I really care since the result has been plastered all over every social platform by this point, but why would you post two separate spoiler warnings at the beginning and then use THAT as the thumbnail?
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Somer-_-
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:42 pm
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JoelBurger wrote: |
Somer-_- wrote: | I have to say his current team probably has the more characterization and camaraderie than any other generation. They all have personality and get a chance to shine. |
His current team were barely ever on screen together because of the show's format, they have basically no camaraderie. Same with characterization, where Ash taking a backseat to Go for most of the show meant that we barely got anything from his Pokemon. Like seriously try to tell me anything about his Dragonite or Dracovish. |
Dragonite definitely didn't get much other than being a gentle hugger and the Iris battle, but Dracovish has a lot of character and is close with Sirfetch'd. The Drasna mini arc, the Cynthia battle and the episode last week showed this.
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Blazi
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 7:49 pm
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Wow, a journey of 25 years, and he did it. Congratulations Ash!
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