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NEWS: Shonen Jump+ Details 8 New Manga for October-November Including 2 Naruto Spinoffs, Hololive Ma




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MFrontier



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:12 am Reply with quote
Those titles suggest some interesting premises...
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BaronViolet



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 9:28 am Reply with quote
Great. I wonder how long each title will last before cancellation? A month? A week? A year if they are lucky
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:02 am Reply with quote
BaronViolet wrote:
Great. I wonder how long each title will last before cancellation? A month? A week? A year if they are lucky

This is Jump+, things aren't as competitive.

Also getting cancelled after a month? Come on, people rag on WSJ's cancellations but it's not that bad Rolling Eyes Its arguably better now, things used to get axed at 14 chapters minimum
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:24 am Reply with quote
The HoloX manga is the only one I'm interested in, I like Koyori, Chloe, and I'm familiar with Lui (I'm especially enjoying her Nocturne streams so far).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:26 pm Reply with quote
MagicPolly wrote:
BaronViolet wrote:
Great. I wonder how long each title will last before cancellation? A month? A week? A year if they are lucky

This is Jump+, things aren't as competitive.

Also getting cancelled after a month? Come on, people rag on WSJ's cancellations but it's not that bad Rolling Eyes Its arguably better now, things used to get axed at 14 chapters minimum


A lot of people don't seem to realize that WSJ is extremely forgiving nowadays. Hell in some cases things got canceled even before hitting 14 chapters. Can't remember the name, but I recall one series getting canceled at chapter 9.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:26 pm Reply with quote
Touma55 wrote:
A lot of people don't seem to realize that WSJ is extremely forgiving nowadays. Hell in some cases things got canceled even before hitting 14 chapters. Can't remember the name, but I recall one series getting canceled at chapter 9.


The all-time record for "fastest cancellation" in Shonen Jump is Chagecha by Yoshio Sawai in 2009, at only 8 chapters; the only stuff shorter were titles meant to be short-run stories from the start.

But, like people said, Jump+ is a much more relaxed environment, so cancellations are much rarer. In fact, one title that got quickly canned in Weekly (2014's iShojo) was then moved over to Jump+ & had a ~3 year run & totaled 14 volumes from 2014 to 2017.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:24 pm Reply with quote
Jump+ titles very rarely get canceled—even if they're poorly received or plain unpopular. I'm thankful for that policy because I got to read the gem that was The Vertical World thanks to it.

While WSJ's much more cutthroat policy has been touted as the reason it built up such an impressive portfolio over the years, Jump+ is quickly gaining on it without having to go to such drastic measures and having a much more lax release schedule as well. For instance, Monster #8 and Spy x Family are already international bestsellers with an 8-digit number of copies in circulation, soon likely to be joined by Dandadan and/or Jigokuraku with its upcoming adaptation, and now Chainsaw Man, too, has moved to Plus, Fujimoto's original publication alma mater. It'll take a while for Plus to build a massive portfolio of smash hits for sure, but they're gaining them at a similar rate despite such a difference in editorial policy.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 4:05 pm Reply with quote
moozooh wrote:
Jump+ titles very rarely get canceled—even if they're poorly received or plain unpopular.


No, series definitely get cancelled. They just tend to get a bit more leeway and leadtime to end things than in the magazine since they don't have to immediately cycle in a replacement. But there's a ton of series (most of them never getting licensed or translated) that ran in plus for a year or less and called it quits well before they obviously were meant to.
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lossthief wrote:
No, series definitely get cancelled. They just tend to get a bit more leeway and leadtime to end things than in the magazine since they don't have to immediately cycle in a replacement. But there's a ton of series (most of them never getting licensed or translated) that ran in plus for a year or less and called it quits well before they obviously were meant to.

I never said they didn't. But just over the last year alone, WSJ chewed through seven series (Red Hood, Neru, Magu-chan, Shugomaru, Doron Dororon, Earthchild, and Ayashimon) with at least one more on its way out in the next few weeks. In the same timespan, how many series ended in Plus against author's wishes? Like... two? Three at most? That's a "ton"?

Like you said, it's mainly because they don't occupy physical space in the magazine so the next publication doesn't have to wait its turn. But I've also seen series going on in Plus that would've been booted out of WSJ after 3-4 volumes or would've never even made it there in the first place for other reasons (again, The Vertical World comes to mind with its doodly art and webtoon-like paneling).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 5:56 pm Reply with quote
moozooh wrote:

I never said they didn't. But just over the last year alone, WSJ chewed through seven series (Red Hood, Neru, Magu-chan, Shugomaru, Doron Dororon, Earthchild, and Ayashimon) with at least one more on its way out in the next few weeks. In the same timespan, how many series ended in Plus against author's wishes? Like... two? Three at most? That's a "ton"?


Just sticking to series that ended prematurely (to use your definition, ending in 3-4 volumes) in 2022:

Kinemaquia
Majime Succubus Hiiragi-san
Miss Little Gray
Aurora Node
Sebumi Reifu
Gorilla High School Girl
After School mate
Higan Shigan no Monodomoyo
Don't Blush, Sekime-san!
Tengu to Warashi
Aragae! Dark Elf-chan
New World Order
The Lady Will Become an Idol
The Mutant Wants to Kiss His Human Girlfriend
Karappo no Aine
Tonight We'll Have a Sleepover


There's a couple of other series that ended up at around 5-6 volumes, so I left them out. Point being, a lot of stuff still gets axed in Jump+, we just don't hear about it because it's never localized here and most series go away before they gain enough attention for scanlations. Cancellations also tend to take longer because Jump+ series either run on bi-weekly schedules, or have shorter weekly chapters (around 10-12 pages) and thus take longer to build up a full volume's worth of chapters.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:05 pm Reply with quote
lossthief wrote:
Just sticking to series that ended prematurely (to use your definition, ending in 3-4 volumes) in 2022

My definition wasn't about the number of volumes (that was from another sentence altogether), as you could've told by my including Magu-chan. It was about the decision being made by the publisher as opposed to being finished as intended or otherwise by author's decision regardless of the reason. Not every short or awkwardly paced/ended manga is a canceled one. Sometimes authors run out of things to say but don't have a good way in mind to wrap the story up.

lossthief wrote:
Majime Succubus Hiiragi-san

Not sure this is an axe; author wrote several other short ecchi manga with a similar concept one after another in quick succession. Hard to think he'd be given the opportunity if the previous works were a failure; it's probably what he had in mind to begin with.

lossthief wrote:
Don't Blush, Sekime-san!

Also debatable because the author's tweet said the characters will "return in a new book". I'm not sure what exactly it entails (a change of format?), but it doesn't sound like a publisher-side cancellation.

lossthief wrote:
After School mate

Reasonably sure that wasn't an axe; rather just a short story born out of a one-shot.

I'll trust you on those that I wasn't aware of or not willing to dig into, and concede my point.
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BigOnAnime
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 9:25 pm Reply with quote
MFrontier wrote:
Those titles suggest some interesting premises...
Indeed, one has a giantess. Didn't think I'd see another one of those so soon after Gigant ended. Also speaking of said manga...
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Chieri no Koi wa 8 Meters (Chieri's Love is 8 Meters) by Watari Mitogawa (debuts on October 2)
The mangaka's name is Wataru Mitogawa, not Watari Mitogawa.
https://twitter.com/mitogawawataru/status/1576228537765224448
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LegitPancake



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:14 am Reply with quote
I really hope a majority of these will have simultaneous English translations. I know their “commitment” isn’t until 2023, but it’d still be nice if they started early.
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