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Okita Souji's Fangirl
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:24 pm
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Why did ADV drop the manga to PeaceMaker it was getting so good will another manga company pickup the series because i really want to see the last two volumes!!
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Tony K.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 10:51 pm
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Moving this to the Manga forum.
And short answer: ADV's manga division sucks. Tokyopoop has licensed the first series of manga, Shinsengumi Immon Peace Maker, so maybe they'll finish or at least start over from the train wreck that is ADV manga. Peace Maker Kurogane is only 4 volumes anyway, so it shouldn't be that hard. Thanks ADV, I'm glad I never bothered buying Vol.2 given the quality of the Vol.1 that came with my PMK anime starter set...
EDIT: Fixed spelling.
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kolibri
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 12:23 am
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That bad eh? What exactly was wrong with it? I kinda always wanted to check out the manga since I like the anime, but the fact that it was left unfinished stopped me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:45 pm
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kolibri wrote: | That bad eh? What exactly was wrong with it? I kinda always wanted to check out the manga since I like the anime, but the fact that it was left unfinished stopped me. |
Let's see.. I believe the manga progresses in a pretty linear fashion. You've got Shinsengumi Immon Peace Maker, which I guess introduces the Ichimura brothers, their joining the Shinsengumi, and whatever other story arcs and character interaction there are in 6 volumes. Then you have Peace Maker Kurogane, which continues the story and spans a length of 4 volumes. Altogether, it's 10 volumes for the entire story.
I don't know why Nanae Chrono would do two separate series unless she needed a break, wanted to get published in a different magazine, or whatever, but that's how it is.
Then you have the PMK anime, which is suppose to be an adaptation of the entire manga series. Unfortunately, the writing staff made the mistake of trying to combine the material of both series into one big bullplop.
It's real apparent if you watch the first 4 episodes of the anime and read the first volume of the PMK manga and notice some of the similarities in events, yet how they're also different because in Vol.1 of the manga you can already see Tetsunosuke is wearing the full Shinsengumi uniform with swords and all.
Just from reading Vol.1 of PMK, I can also see some of the charcterization differences, most notably in Tatsunosuke. In the anime, he's cheery, high-spirited, and very much a spaz. But from all I read in just that first volume, he appeared much more stoic and even melancholy in the way his dialogue is translated, the expressions on his face, and just his overall demeanor.
As to why ADV cancelled production after Vol.2 of the manga, I don't know the specifics. But historically speaking, ADV's manga division is notorious for trying to license all sorts of titles, only to discontinue them because of bad marketing, poor quality, or whatever.
I have no clue how the entire story progresses, I've only read Vol.1 of PMK. And I was almost tempted to find scanlations of it all, but thankfully Tokyopoop has at least acquired PM. I haven't read much of their manga, but I've heard decent to good things about their treatment and whatnot. Hopefully, someone will be able to make up for the debacle ADV has pulled. Bakumatsu/Meiji era stuff is a historical period I'm always eager to check out .
EDIT: Fixed a couple of words.
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kolibri
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:40 pm
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Tony K. wrote: | Just from reading Vol.1 of PMK, I can also see some of the charcterization differences, most notably in Tatsunosuke. In the anime, he's cheery, high-spirited, and very much a spaz. But from all I read in just that first volume, he appeared much more stoic and even melancholy in the way his dialogue is translated, the expressions on his face, and just his overall demeanor. |
Ah, sounds perfect
One of the things that at times got into my nerve with the anime was the cheery boy who didn't seem to get the fact that being in the Shinsengumi actually meant killing people. In fact, when PMK anime was serious it was very good, but most of the time it was very light and at times absurdly silly (like that episode where Hijikata's haikus get stolen, I mean WTF was that about?). If the manga tones that down it would be something I'd definitely love to check out.
Tony K. wrote: | I have no clue how the entire story progresses, I've only read Vol.1 of PMK. And I was almost tempted to find scanlations of it all, but thankfully Tokyopoop has at least acquired PM. I haven't read much of their manga, but I've heard decent to good things about their treatment and whatnot. Hopefully, someone will be able to make up for the debacle ADV has pulled. Bakumatsu/Meiji era stuff is a historical period I'm always eager to check out . |
Right. I have nothing but good to say about Tokyopop inside the covers. Good quality, usually reliable release schedules etc. This is slightly OT but what pisses me off with Tokyopop though is what they do with covers - they can change them from one edition to another quite a lot, the backs, everything - so if you get volumes from different editions they look crap on your shelf... yeah, I'm anal like that. I'll definitely check Peacemaker out when they release it - any idea when this is gonna happen? I can't find even a mention of it on their site. One can only hope that if this sells they might try to get the second series too.
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Tony K.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:57 pm
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kolibri wrote: | I'll definitely check Peacemaker out when they release it - any idea when this is gonna happen? I can't find even a mention of it on their site. One can only hope that if this sells they might try to get the second series too. |
Seeing as how they announced the license around the middle of last summer (July '06), I'm guessing it'll be around the end of spring to the middle of summer '07. Since there's not much to translate, they'll probably take their time.
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:34 pm
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kolibri wrote: | I have nothing but good to say about Tokyopop inside the covers. Good quality, usually reliable release schedules etc. |
That's quite different from my experience with TOKYOPOP. Most manga, especially the novels, I have read contain bajillions of errors even right down to a terrible font choice (which is almost always the case). Yeah, in the re-releases the mistakes are usually fixed, but that's doesn't help those who have already bought the entire series as it was being released. There are the occasional well-done manga, which is what I expect with Peacemaker. The most redeeming feature is indeed the scheduling. Like you said, they are pretty consistent when releasing volumes. TP keeps picking up bajillions of series and releasing them very quickly. I just wish there was a little more quality (and consistent translations) in their manga (esp. novels!).
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kolibri
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:10 pm
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Aromatic Grass wrote: | That's quite different from my experience with TOKYOPOP. |
Maybe I've been lucky then... let's see what I have from them on my shelf...
Paradise Kiss - if you don't count the really annoying cover change (I've got volume 5 that looks completely different from 1-4) - it's pretty nice. Font is readable, effects haven't been translated but I don't mind that much - it's josei so it's not like it plays a major part. Loveless - this is superb, it's got a colour page in the latest volume with Kouga's original art and they have taken extra special care with the translation (only some effects have been translated though). Some volumes have notes from the translator. Eerie Queerie! - again, font is fine, with no effect translations. Author's notes in the back which I always enjoy. Welcome to the NHK - it's got a color page which is not a huge deal with this title but still nice, this is very well translated with full footnotes in the back explaining the Japanese references. Then I have Planetes but I haven't opened that yet, I'm waiting for all the volumes to arrive (most of it is out of print so it's taken some hunting to track down all of it). They changed the backs of these books between editions so this will look stupid on my shelf too
It's not a huge collection but I'm perfectly happy with them, some of them are even very nice. I haven't seen any of their novels though so I can't say anything about those. (I also like BLU, their BL line, their manga is great quality work too but it's probably totally separate issue.) Anyway, I didn't meant to make this into a Tokyopop thread... So to go back to Peacemaker - it would be awesome to see color page(s) for that too, the Shinsengumi uniforms are so visual.
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 7:45 pm
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kolibri wrote: |
Paradise Kiss...Loveless... Welcome to the NHK |
These are all manga that I do want to buy. I saw NHK in the store and agree that it looks pretty well put together. I've read Eerie Queerie! and didn't like it as a story. For me, Demon Ororon (at least the early releases) had obvious mistakes, as well as some annoying font choices (that really curvy one that is used by Dark in DNAngel). .hack//Legend had some really inconsistent, and completely wrong, translations which were fixed in the new box package.
But back on the topic of Peacemaker, I believe that TP will do a good job with the presentation and advertising. I really want to read that and Aria (or was it Aqua?).
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Shorty22
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:13 pm
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Aromatic Grass wrote: |
.hack//Legend had some really inconsistent, and completely wrong, translations which were fixed in the new box package. |
Ugh, I almost hate to ask, but what are you talking about here? I bought the first two volumes right as they were released, so they probably have any inconsistencies that you are referring to.
As for Peacemaker, I too was interested in picking it up but didn't since by the time I discovered it, everyone knew it was discontinued. Plus it started in the middle of the story, being the second 'season' so to speak, so that was another negative for me. But now that Tokyopop has the first 'season', I'll be picking it up when it hits the shelves.
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Okita Souji's Fangirl
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:01 pm
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i gotta find out how it ends I dont have any of the volume yet but as soon as they come out come back to this topic and post a message because this is my favorite anime series and I need to know how it ends. the thing is my cousin is going to Japan next month i already told her to get the PeaceMaker manga because I heard it was dicountiued oh well ill have both english and Japanese versions of the manga
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