Forum - View topicINTEREST: Japan Government Tightens Penalties For Cyberbullying
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penguintruth
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A policy like this, while well intentioned, could lead to some awful side effects.
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Alphonae
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Protecting people against unfair online defamation is a nice thing to do. But this can be misused, so all things said and done, I do not support this. Though my opinion doesn't matter
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Greed1914
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How it's enforced is going to be a big factor. The description reads like saying something negative could count in the broadest use. Personally, I would think cyberbullying is a more targeted and ongoing thing. It gets even murkier for a public person since there could be lots of instances of insults, but each one was a one-off from various individuals.
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Hoppy800
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This won't end well for Japan, while bad actors are far less in Japan and Asia than western countries, they still exist and a lot of it is centered in the entertainment industry, where a law like this will be abused the most, mostly by agencies against fans especially; but also it can be abused by antis to get rid of an idol or other talent who stands up to them.
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Kadmos1
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Exactly. I am for the "free speech doesn't bar you from consequences" angle, such a bill can and might be easily abused. Sucks how a lot of ideas about X work best in theory vs. practicality. |
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Joe Mello
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I, too, can hear all the SLAPP cases rumbling down the pike, among other things. Sadly the alternative is the government asking private companies to do a job (actual content and account moderation) they are very much not interested in doing. |
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Hal14
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I don't use social media much but I do have experience with being bullied. Back then the advice people would give was "walk away from someone bullying you" or if people were badmouthing me i should just "ignore them". That advice was not helpful then and i doubt it's helpful now, even if interactions are now largely digital. I practiced this advice only to be accused of being antisocial, by the very same people who gave me the advice in the first place. In a similar way, avoiding interactions by "just turning off the computer/phone" isn't a real option. More people interact online now than in the past. Schools even have their own social media platforms for their students. The people who might bully you online aren't randos, they are your classmates seating next to you. Heck, the reason why they do it online is because it's easier to get away with and its easier for multiple people to join in. Internet mobs enjoy public shaming and the anonymity (or belief that you are anonymous) it provides emboldens them to do so.
tldr; cyberbullying can be hard to imagine if you don't interact online much or are past a certain generation. However, idk how helpful these penalties will be. |
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Almyx2
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300,000 yen is more than the rurouni kenshin author got for being a pedophile what the hell
he only got 200k |
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Dark Mac
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It's been illegal for years without serious negative consequences. Not sure what the other commenters are talking about. Harassment is illegal in most countries, including America.
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Meongantuk
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When it says "up to 300k," it doesn't mean it's always 300k. It's the maximum amount. Most of the time they pay less than that depends on the severity and the person who sued them think plus the court's feeling that day. |
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SciasSlash
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1) Human beings aren't rational actors. If your boyfriend is abusing you, the obvious and correct thing to do is to leave the relationship, but that doesn't mean most people do that.
2) The incident that sparked all this was a celebrity who was appearing in a reality show. That is very obviously a career where managing your social media is part of the job. Furthermore, people were also calling her in real life, as well as her parents and coworkers. 'Cyber'bullying can easily rile up real threats. 3) We live in an age where the barrier between the internet and 'your life' is increasingly vague, especially with the pandemic. 'Just stop all major internet usage for an uncertain period of time in the vague hope people will eventually leave you alone' is not exactly a tenable gameplan. |
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@ASAnime6
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also don't know how they will apply that rule . like how will they know who is the japanese one bullying if he has fake name and fake info
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Errinundra
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Victim-blaming posts and responses removed.
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FunkyDude88
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A law like this could never work in America given how often actors and politicians love to hurl insults and defamatory statements at people "without referring to specific facts". Imagine Seth Rogan getting hit with tons of fines and arrests every time he goes on a tirade every time one of his movies bombs. But as far as Japan goes usually there's already social norms and contracts in place that prevents actors and stuff from acting like idiots on social media so I imagine this will affect more the everyday person who insults famous people or spreads rumors like voice actresses only getting roles due to sexual favors.
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BadNewsBlues
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Actually the reason for why it would never work is because on one hand you have a group that wants to address legitimate bullying & harassment and another group who’re are content to ignore legitimate instances of it, while misappropriating(?) it, & actively engaging/encouraging it. And of course any laws addressing or encouraging it would be likely struck down in the courts both under legitimate and questionable grounds. |
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