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ximpalullaorg
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 Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:10 am
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And this should be another proof that no matter the "procedures" that are used you can't block the spread of a highly contagious respiratory virus (especially with Omicron).
I'm sure the organizers made all the efforts possible, but again, it's not really something that can be controlled (not even with the stupid border closures, Kishida).
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Egan Loo
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:22 am
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| ximpalullaorg wrote: | | And this should be another proof that no matter the "procedures" that are used you can't block the spread of a highly contagious respiratory virus (especially with Omicron).
I'm sure the organizers made all the efforts possible, but again, it's not really something that can be controlled (not even with the stupid border closures, Kishida). |
The Japanese government's policies are not stopping the spread of COVID-19 100% completely, but they weren't meant to. They were meant to forestall an even worse spike to ensure the hospital system doesn't collapse under the strain.
Controlling the pandemic doesn't necessarily mean eradicating it now, but it does mean flattening the curve to buy more time for booster shots and enough hospital beds.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:27 pm
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| ximpalullaorg wrote: | | I'm pretty sure the Comiket organizers were in good faith trying to avoid any problems but... it was bound to happen. |
As already said, the purpose is to slow it down so it stays manageable. Your link is irrelevant to this topic.
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charliepanayi
Joined: 17 Jul 2021
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:08 pm
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| Egan Loo wrote: |
| ximpalullaorg wrote: | | And this should be another proof that no matter the "procedures" that are used you can't block the spread of a highly contagious respiratory virus (especially with Omicron).
I'm sure the organizers made all the efforts possible, but again, it's not really something that can be controlled (not even with the stupid border closures, Kishida). |
The Japanese government's policies are not stopping the spread of COVID-19 100% completely, but they weren't meant to. They were meant to forestall an even worse spike to ensure the hospital system doesn't collapse under the strain.
Controlling the pandemic doesn't necessarily mean eradicating it now, but it does mean flattening the curve to buy more time for booster shots and enough hospital beds. |
We've been 'flattening the curve' for almost two years now - this all smacks of moving the goalposts indefinitely (which it is) because people can't handle settling for the vaccines massively curbing serious illness and death. If you don't want to move on fine, but don't mess up things for the rest of us.
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Blanchimont
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:35 pm
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| charliepanayi wrote: | | We've been 'flattening the curve' for almost two years now - this all smacks of moving the goalposts indefinitely (which it is) because people can't handle settling for the vaccines massively curbing serious illness and death. If you don't want to move on fine, but don't mess up things for the rest of us. |
Tell that to the anti-vax crowd. They're the ones putting serious pressure on health services and hospitals and keeping the curve high.
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Vanadise
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:59 pm
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| charliepanayi wrote: | | We've been 'flattening the curve' for almost two years now |
I desperately wish that was true, but it's not. Aside from the initial lockdown in early 2020, we've done almost nothing. Businesses are wide open, people are gathering in public, masks and vaccines are basically "wear a mask and get vaccinated if you feel like it", with absolutely zero enforcement. The state-level government where I live has even gone so far as to ban local governments from enacting any kind of safety measures. The result is that the USA now has more cases and more deaths than any other country. We're at least not #1 after you adjust per capita, but the only countries that are worse are ones that USians like to look down their noses at ( https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality ). The USA's number of deaths per capita is nearly twenty times as high as Japan's.
And the sad thing is that we now have enough data that it's easy to say that the first attempt at flattening the curve actually worked! ( https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/covid-cases.html ) Every wave after that, at which point we had basically given up on doing anything, is drastically worse than the first one.
So, y'know what, if Comiket's policies managed to slow down the spread enough that only two staffers have been diagnosed, I'd say that's pretty darn good.
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