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battle-arc-fan
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:04 pm
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Specific gripe followed by general gripe.
Specific: while technically this isn't ikemen or bishounen, this is not how Wolverine is supposed to look. Good grief even if the American 80s action hero/90s antihero look isn't marketable in Japan why not go for Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star? Instead he looks like someone who was expelled from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for having facial hair.
General: please Marvel and DC give it a rest. Just fork over the cash to White Fox (Re:Zero, Katanagari, Steins Gate), Shaft, ufotable etc. and let them do the project from beginning to end. No one wants these "not really anime" projects. Western fans don't want them because good western cartoons like Into The Spiderverse, Teen Titans and the 90s Batman and X-Men cartoons - and are what that crowd really wants. Also, western anime fans don't want what really are western PG-13 cartoons with merely an anime "look and feel." And if there is any evidence that eastern fans - even those who watch MCU and DCEU movies - cares about these provide it.
The only halfway decent "not really anime" project that I remember was Iron Man: Rise of Technovore. The rest - including the widely praised "Batman Ninja" ... yeesh.
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MagicPolly
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:08 pm
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battle-arc-fan wrote: | ... |
You're entitled to your opinion (I'm pretty sure the Wolverine anime is considered bad anyway) but I just want to point out that this anime came out 10 years ago
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Raikuro
Joined: 22 Feb 2009
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:15 pm
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All those Marvel anime from a decade ago were made by Madhouse. What makes them "not really anime"?
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MFrontier
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:02 pm
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Oh yeah, the Marvel Anime's.
I remember a lot of people complaining about the stunt casting of Milo as Wolverine here instead of Steve Blum, but they did bring him back for the X-Men anime.
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AmpersandsUnited
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:32 pm
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MagicPolly wrote: | You're entitled to your opinion (I'm pretty sure the Wolverine anime is considered bad anyway) but I just want to point out that this anime came out 10 years ago |
Yeah, these are pretty old to complain about. The only thing I remember liking about these were some of the X-Men's designs.
Obviously a dream project could be nice, but there's too much red tape on these IPs for it to really happen these days.
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:51 pm
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As someone who likes both anime and Western animation in general and American animation in particular,I don't think your statement is quite true,battle-arc-fan. I have no problems with Western animation including American animation mimicking anime. At the same time,I don't mind that DC and Marvel hand things off to Japanese anime companies occasionally.
I've seen the "Wolverine" anime when it first came out and it was mostly good. I don't have a lot of complaints about it. I also don't mind that there are shows in the U.S. that copy the Japanese anime style. With me,it's all about the quality of those shows that count. I don't know about you,battle-arc-fan,but I'm the type of guy who willing to like and enjoy both as long as they're good and a fun watch. I think your comment comes off as a bit silly and prejudicial. I like this and I hope that stuff like this continues.
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matt78
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:29 am
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Weird that Sony owns Funimation & Crunchyroll and they are streaming the Marvel anime everywhere except their anime streaming sites. I've been waiting for these and Blood+ to show up on Funimation for a while now.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:52 pm
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battle-arc-fan wrote: | Specific gripe followed by general gripe.
Specific: while technically this isn't ikemen or bishounen, this is not how Wolverine is supposed to look. Good grief even if the American 80s action hero/90s antihero look isn't marketable in Japan why not go for Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star? Instead he looks like someone who was expelled from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure for having facial hair. |
There were multiple characters in JoJo that had facial hair.
battle-arc-fan wrote: |
General: please Marvel and DC give it a rest. Just fork over the cash to White Fox (Re:Zero, Katanagari, Steins Gate), Shaft, ufotable etc. and let them do the project from beginning to end. No one wants these "not really anime" projects. Western fans don't want them because good western cartoons like Into The Spiderverse, Teen Titans and the 90s Batman and X-Men cartoons - and are what that crowd really wants. |
You really need to really reassess what fans do and don't want because the 2003 Teen Titans series was really divisive when it first started even funnier it had an anime aesthetic which would make it "not really anime" unlike the Wolverine series which was an anime. Secondly Into The Spider-Verse was a movie unlike those other series you mention and while it was mostly like the animation and character designs used were somewhat divisive as well.
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