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RealMTL
Joined: 09 Jun 2018
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:30 am
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But why did this have to go to court? I hope this promps Funi to fix their stupid website now but the only real winners I see here are the lawyers.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:55 am
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Problem is that this is a confidential settlement. So most likely the lawyers got paid and she got paid.
Angeles was not suing Funimation because they did not provide a service to the legally blind, but that, that service did not provide the same experience as a sighted person.
So if you knit gloves and stuffed animals at home and use one of those home business web software, are you required to hire a coder specializing in disability programming.
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Stevangelion
Joined: 08 Feb 2017
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:13 am
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Oh, so we need to make the blind be able to see when they use a computer. Okay, I’ll start learning how to play god now…. Hope there is a Masterclass.
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lossthief
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 am
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TarsTarkas wrote: |
So if you knit gloves and stuffed animals at home and use one of those home business web software, are you required to hire a coder specializing in disability programming. |
Spare us all the concern trolling please. The parties involved sued because that's often the only recourse left when a company does not respond to calls to comply with the law. And Funimation isn't a random independent business being run out of somebody's garage. They're a company valued at hundreds of millions of dollars that's been around for decades and is owned by an international conglomerate. They easily could afford the frankly basic work it would take to meet compliance.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:35 am
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Stevangelion wrote: | Oh, so we need to make the blind be able to see when they use a computer. Okay, I’ll start learning how to play god now…. Hope there is a Masterclass. |
That's not what the lawsuit demanded. It demanded basic style improvements, like providing "alt text" for HTML attributes, which are (as I think we covered in the last thread on this lawsuit) used by the kinds of software blind persons can use to convert a website to something readable in braille or some similar system.
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Hinotoumei
Joined: 12 Jun 2016
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:36 am
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Good. These laws are there for a reason. I've been let down so many times by these institutions due to legal mumbo jumbo. Nice to hear about a victory.
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merr
Joined: 11 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:03 am
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There are well and long established accessibility requirements for websites. Funi didn’t follow them. That is why they got sued and why they settled. There is nothing novel about this case.
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OtherSideofSky
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:31 am
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TarsTarkas wrote: | are you required to hire a coder specializing in disability programming. |
The requests were for basic shit that got covered in my first intro to web programming class and are also part of established best practice standards for web design. Any competent programmer should be addressing these issues by default.
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Sven Viking
Joined: 09 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:08 am
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I just hope they contacted them about this before taking it to court.
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Tenbyakugon
Joined: 11 Jan 2012
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Location: Ohio, United States
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:41 am
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So we’re going to sue every company that has a website now? I mean, really.
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Vanadise
Joined: 06 Apr 2015
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:57 am
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RealMTL wrote: | But why did this have to go to court? |
Because being threatened with legal action is the only reason that for-profit companies ever do anything to help disabled users.
Tenbyakugon wrote: | So we’re going to sue every company that has a website now? |
If they're a public business that violates ADA Title III, then yes! This is basic stuff that every business with an internet presence should comply with. You don't get to not do so just because you think the rules shouldn't apply to you.
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#Bird_Black
Joined: 24 Nov 2020
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 10:58 am
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Tenbyakugon wrote: | So we’re going to sue every company that has a website now? I mean, really. |
Sure, if they discriminate against people. Why are people going out of their way to defend Funimation?
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Aresef
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:05 am
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This is a win for accessibility.
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DevelsA
Joined: 06 Apr 2021
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:16 am
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The way ADA works, is that an individual serves a lawsuit (this is not done by letter first). Generally these cases are settled, rarely go to court. the settlement will be fixing the problem and a settlement payment. ADA is addressed by individuals generally.
ADA access to websites has been an area of mass growth in lawsuits for compliance.
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karyuudo0127
Joined: 28 Nov 2011
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:17 am
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OtherSideofSky wrote: |
TarsTarkas wrote: | are you required to hire a coder specializing in disability programming. |
The requests were for basic shit that got covered in my first intro to web programming class and are also part of established best practice standards for web design. Any competent programmer should be addressing these issues by default. |
Best practices do not equal requirement. This is simply a case of someone trying to cash in.
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