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BlueOla
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:11 pm
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I hate to be that person but the Japanese voice track is not a "dub" - it's the original voice track. Dubbing by definition involves translation into a different language and that doesn't happen for the original Japanese voice track.
Sorry to be so pedantic but the misuse of the term should be avoided as much as possible.
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Asrialys
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:14 pm
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I guess having two DVDs was too costly...
Knowing now that the licensors required it, let's hope Right Stuf can provide something still better than Shout's BD release...
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TheOtakuX
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:17 pm
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BlueOla wrote: | I hate to be that person but the Japanese voice track is not a "dub" - it's the original voice track. Dubbing by definition involves translation into a different language and that doesn't happen for the original Japanese voice track.
Sorry to be so pedantic but the misuse of the term should be avoided as much as possible. |
While that's how it's used in the fandom, 'dubbing' is basically just ADR. Technically all animation is dubbed.
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Mattman243
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:18 pm
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Must have subtitles hard coded? What kind of requirement is that?!? Did we go back to VHS?
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:20 pm
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BlueOla wrote: | I hate to be that person but the Japanese voice track is not a "dub" - it's the original voice track. Dubbing by definition involves translation into a different language and that doesn't happen for the original Japanese voice track.
Sorry to be so pedantic but the misuse of the term should be avoided as much as possible. |
Dubbing is the process of adding the language track after the finished product and not the process of translating, which would be an adaptation, so the Japanese version is a dub as they do voice recording after the production is done. This is disappointing news after how it seemed like Maquia struggled to get any mainstream attention in the US and I hope this won't lead to lower home video sales.
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cutslo
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:20 pm
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BlueOla wrote: | I hate to be that person but the Japanese voice track is not a "dub" - it's the original voice track. Dubbing by definition involves translation into a different language and that doesn't happen for the original Japanese voice track.
Sorry to be so pedantic but the misuse of the term should be avoided as much as possible. |
By definition, "dubbing" is the process of mixing any audio over existing footage, such as putting voices onto some animation (which comes without sound). If you're not feeling pedantic you can also use the popular but inaccurate meaning of limiting that to translated voice tracks.
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hissatsu01
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:45 pm
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It's surprising these days to get a release this badly crippled by licensing requirements.
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GracieLizzy
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 pm
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Mattman243 wrote: | Must have subtitles hard coded? What kind of requirement is that?!? Did we go back to VHS? |
This is pretty common actually it's an attempted deterrent to "reverse importers" in Japan who might have tried to buy a cheaper US release than the likely more expensive Japanese one.
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BreathoftheWater
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:02 pm
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Meh... Who cares? Nobody buys DVDs anymore.
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Mattman243
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:02 pm
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GracieLizzy wrote: |
This is pretty common actually it's an attempted deterrent to "reverse importers" in Japan who might have tried to buy a cheaper US release than the likely more expensive Japanese one. |
Oh wow, I didn't know that! Crazy.
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Takizawa-Shinzou
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:20 pm
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"incorrectly list", you mean false advertised? They have to refund/fix the issue or it's a big legal issue.
But really, companies should just stop releasing DVD. It's 2019. Blu-ray players are $20. Everyone has one and there's no legit reason for people to complain about blu-ray-only releases. Save money and release everything ONLY on blu-ray.
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#Synaesthesia
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:37 pm
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I couldn't tell... I only watch the dub
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Ggultra2764
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:45 pm
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Having bought the DVD version of this due to being cheaper, I have to wonder why the licensors made this kind of requirement. Unlike Blu-Ray, Japan and America have different region codes for the DVD format thus there wouldn't be a concern for reverse importing compared to Blu-Ray. I certainly recall Japanese companies were paranoid about it with Blu-Ray earlier in the decade as some anime titles either had delayed Blu-Ray releases or lacked Japanese audio as a condition for releasing a series on Blu-Ray. But DVD? Only reason I could think of is an attempt to boost sales of the Blu-Ray/DVD combo sets for those wanting the Japanese audio track of the film.
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FireChick
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:48 pm
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Huh. That's odd. I wonder why the DVD version doesn't have the Japanese track. Was it an error of some sort? I guess buying the Blu-Ray was a good move on my part. I hope this issue gets resolved.
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Angel M Cazares
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:56 pm
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FireChick wrote: | Huh. That's odd. I wonder why the DVD version doesn't have the Japanese track. Was it an error of some sort? |
The article explains the reasons.
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