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#869984
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 Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:11 pm
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it's sad how some producers are still in the past
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:24 pm
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That's because they are turning into a monopoly. If Kadokawa being a huge conglomerate that killed Kemono Friends for petty reasons was bad enough.
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:10 pm
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| #869984 wrote: | | it's sad how some producers are still in the past |
In Japan, four out of the top ten best-selling 21st-century anime series Blu-Rays originally aired between 2014 and 2017, so maybe they're living in the "very recent past". 
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#869984
Joined: 24 Apr 2017
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:24 pm
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| BodaciousSpacePirate wrote: |
| #869984 wrote: | | it's sad how some producers are still in the past |
In Japan, four out of the top ten best-selling 21st-century anime series Blu-Rays originally aired between 2014 and 2017, so maybe they're living in the "very recent past". |
i know the numbers and chart, 1 anime selling good in 2016/2017 doesn't mean that anime in general sell well in video
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luffypirate
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:32 pm
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I need to find me a good 2017 anime. Spent the last year catching up on stuff and things.
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relyat08
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:40 am
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| BodaciousSpacePirate wrote: |
| #869984 wrote: | | it's sad how some producers are still in the past |
In Japan, four out of the top ten best-selling 21st-century anime series Blu-Rays originally aired between 2014 and 2017, so maybe they're living in the "very recent past". |
Having a very large hit is one thing. Having a strong industry as a whole is another. This guy is living in the past if he considers physical media the "backbone" of the industry. It's a nice extra revenue stream that can really help some shows break into the black, and it can be an explosive revenue stream that makes something incredibly successful on very rare occasions, but it is just as fickle as anything else. These days, streaming is closer to the real backbone than anything else. Even shows that sell nothing at least get streaming revenue. And in some cases, that is enough to turn a profit.
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yuna49
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:39 am
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He worked as a producer on Girls' Last Tour and is complaining about the lack of unique shows in 2017??? I certainly would place that among the most unique shows I've ever watched.
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LegitPancake
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:41 am
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| Quote: | | “Tanaka said in the interview that he was largely unimpressed with the selection of anime in 2017... However, he praised Made in Abyss.” |
A man of good taste I see.
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Lemonchest
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:40 am
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| Quote: | | He thinks that there were few original works, and some anime were sequels relying on the previous success of their franchises |
Not sure someone working at Kadokawa is in a position to complain about that.
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Lord Oink
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:25 am
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| #869984 wrote: | | it's sad how some producers are still in the past |
Indeed, when will Japan get with the times and go digital only like us enlightened Americans?
*randomly loses entire collection because a service shuts down or loses the license*
Whoops.
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Niello
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:55 am
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| Lord Oink wrote: |
| #869984 wrote: | | it's sad how some producers are still in the past |
Indeed, when will Japan get with the times and go digital only like us enlightened Americans?
*randomly loses entire collection because a service shuts down or loses the license*
Whoops. |
And what does that last part have anything to do with turning profit from a show? You're talking oranges while people are discussing apples.
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#854626
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:03 am
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The only good anime this year was rob: virgin soul, inuyashiki, and garo: vanishing line. There's still anime creators who aren't afraid to be different.
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configspace
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:04 am
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Considering how rushed the animation is for TV anime and how we literally have incomplete endings sometimes, and how streaming licenses regularly expire, it's a good thing we still have disc sales and that those still bring in are large per-unit profit. Particularly for niche shows with smaller audiences, relying purely on streaming for the masses isn't enough (CR had already stated that fund distribution back to licensors is function of viewership), hence the need for all kinds of other revenue sources from merchandise to home video.
With anime having revised content of varying degrees on disc releases, I think people who solely rely on streaming/TV broadcasts are missing out.
| #854626 wrote: | | The only good anime this year was rob: virgin soul, inuyashiki, and garo: vanishing line. There's still anime creators who aren't afraid to be different. |
There's like 200 shows a year of all varieties. I'm pretty sure everyone will have a different opinion.
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valoon
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 7:48 am
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They won't be getting more since the Kadokawa incident, right what they deserve.
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younesase
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:10 am
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It's weird how ignorant people are in this comment section, you guys have such simple minds, and no idea on how things work in the anime industry, so stop trying to act like specialist.
"Oh they still live in the past", that's just dumb for so many reasons, people treat the producer as an amateur, the guys WORKS in the industry, HE KNOWS how thing works and how things operate, and what gives money or what doesn't, people who think he live in the past because he think that physical copies are important are just ignoring the fact that they actually ARE important and give the industry MONEY.
Also the anime's production doesn't end after the TV airing, even after the episode aired, the staff still has to work on the same episode after finishing the series, because the busy TV schedule means making a lot of mistakes in the production, so usually the TV version is like a preview of what the serie should be, but the finished product comes after that, they usually fix animation mistakes or some incoherences, and all that require time and effort, which means that it cost money and the only way to have that money back is by releasing the physical copies because all anime streaming website all stream the TV version, and after the bluray is released most people have already watched the TV series on TV or a streaming website and probably won't bother streaming it again just because it's a newer version but what they will do is buying merchandise including the blu ray version. This is one of the reasons that make it important but there are more that I don't know about.
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