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MarineCorps
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Axis cult?!?!?!?!? |
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Blanchimont
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The propensity of Japan's far-right groups to deny or belittle Japanese war crimes is well known. Unfortunately the Glendale statue isn't the only one such which have come under fire from these groups, there are other similar instances from around the world. If there was something to compare to it would be like if German groups objected to monuments honoring holocaust victims...
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Parsifal24
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Yeah that sounds pretty accurate I rember in the High School of The Dead Manga or it may have been the Anime I don't remember. Saya's Dad was referd to as being to the right of Yukio Mishima. Which given the way Mishima's life ended and his founding of Tatenokai that's saying something.
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Oh yeah, I saw a documentary about them.
They're kinda like that new brand of nazis in the US. Just like them, they seem to get really mad when people accuse them of being racists. Usually after they said something racist. So yeah, I can see why they cut that part out of the anime. I'd like to think it wasn't the author's intention to glorify those types, but regardless I'd prefer if popular culture steered clear of anything that might seem like an endorsement of them. |
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Lemonchest
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The general populace may not like them, but the LDP do, which gives such groups a lot more influence than their relatively tiny numbers suggests.
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Hellsoldier
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Fun fact: The Imperial family has korean blood. Also, Japan in general has Chinese and Korean blood. And also, immigrants were welcome and have shaped Japanese Culture. Also, Yamato people, the main ethnic group in Japan, are a mix of Jōmon and Yayoi people. Not to mention all the ancient (Emishi) and even the modern-day peoples (Ryukyuan/Okinawan and Ainu) integrated into Japan. So much for racial purity, more like a nation of immigrants. Also, for the far-right groups against the LGBT, same-sex attraction thrived in the past, among other things. Oh, and the technology you're using is largely western.
Oh God, I love logical inconsistency. |
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mgosdin
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Being logically inconsistent, holding views that are contradictory to reality, even views that are contradictory among themselves is totally normal for people. Emotions run high when you touch the subject of national identity. In Japan, the USA or anywhere else you care to name. Mark Gosdin |
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Polycell
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slau783
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I think MarineCorps is actually referring to the anime Konosuba (Kono Subarashi Sekai ni Shukufuku wo). In that anime there is a religion called the Axis Church, but their followers are extremely pushy in trying to get people to join or convert. Even the people in the anime call it a cult. |
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ChrisA15
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Quite frankly, the Japanese nationalists are exactly why I don't blame Chinese for their strong anti-Japanese sentiment. Even amongst the more liberal of the Japanese, there is hardly ever any mention of WW2, it isn't even mentioned in schools. Yet they are more then happy to teach about the pasts of other countries like European colonialism, downfall of the British empire, Russian revolution, etc.
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BadNewsBlues
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Given one of their actions in World War 2, led to them unfortunately becoming the first and (hopefully) only country to get a first hand demonstration of what it looks like to be hit with a Nuclear Weapon that's somewhat understandable. Last edited by BadNewsBlues on Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:19 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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SilverTalon01
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That is slightly inaccurate. The word the subtitles were using to mean cult is the same that you will find following Christ in the Japanese word for Christianity. There is no distinction in Konosuba between the two just a translator's preference to use cult. I'm not taking issue with the choice to call it a cult just that the distinction you are talking about isn't there. Not that there is much of a difference between a cult and a religion anyway.
That isn't really just a Japanese thing. US schools usually skirt around or very quickly dash through unfavorable material as well. It isn't even just schools. There was a big controversy when the Smithsonian wanted to make an Enola Gay exhibit for the 50th anniversary of the end of the war (the plane that dropped one of the atomic bombs) because some people didn't like how the original exhibit portrayed the US. I guarantee you that China does the exact same thing when it comes to airing their dirty laundry. |
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Hellsoldier
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The reason why nationalism and other mind cancers will prevail. Hatred that breeds hatred.
I blame them. All nationalist movements fuel one another, the nationalists in Tokyo, Seoul and Beijing feed one another. TV Tropes curiously has a good piece on this. Quote: ''The war is still within living memory, and what successive generations have been taught about it is the subject of (fierce) controversy in East Asia. Generally speaking, nations best deal with shared negative experiences like war and imperialism when they treat the whole thing fairly impersonally, reach broad agreements on the rough facts of the matter without trying to demonize anyone, and do their best to move on. For example, Germany and Poland: whilst many Poles still don't forgive aspects of the conduct of Nazi Germany, most of today's Germans are sorry about what happened, and the great majority of Poles and Germans mutually regret the whole business and don't want that sort of thing to happen ever again between anyone, and like to leave it at that. That's probably not going to happen any time soon with this, not least because certain nationalist groups and even national governments aren't actually interested in reconciliation. Xenophobic hatred suits these people's interests because it fosters national unity and keeps their people's resentment focused outward. Imperial Japan would have approved.'' Japan has a low average patriotism level, specially among youth. Largely thanks to the spread of the Internet, which spread knowledge. About those who don't talk about the issue, if they don't know about it, how can you blame them for knowing? Millions of Chinese also understand what's going on. And it's actually crystal clear. On a final note: Sins of the father is a vicious logic. A child or grandchild of a Japanese/German/American/Chinese/Russian war criminal has no blame over the acts of the war criminal. This mere idea of blame by descent causes repulsions. We are individuals. Collective Blame is a crime against reason, and only serves to dehumanize. With this said, East Asia should follow the Germany/Poland example. The LDP should honor the past apologies, follow the emperor's example, or leave. Nobody is winning with this, except the Hermit Kingdom's leader & military elite, because nobody is working together. End of rant. Sidenote: Should Native Americans or African Americans hate a white child? Thought as much. Last edited by Hellsoldier on Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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H. Guderian
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That even swings both ways, the guy who assassinated the Archduke the start WW1 is a celebrated hero. Millions dead and the guy who assassinated someone who wanted to uplift them is a hero. Even winners make a fuss. I mean, what was the Cold War but an extension of the Victors of WW2 still trying to divide the spoils? I think the lesson is that both sides lose the war, even if someone does win. |
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Hellsoldier
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War in a nutshell. Death, Atrocity, Destruction. No nation wins, only political leaders. My father says that soldiers don't wage war, politicians do. |
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