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gpanthony
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:00 pm
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I think it's about balance, and like was said in the article it is going to be on a case by case basis. One major issue is that when people get heated, they tend to say things out of spite with the express purpose of being hurtful even if they don't mean it and backing down can be hard after that. Also, children and parents can have very different perspectives on a situation and that is something can be difficult to really understand for both parties. A parent can have foresight and experience that helps them to form an opinion but because of that they fail to be able to see where their child is coming from, and the opposite may be true for the child. Of course, social norms and personal pride and hang ups will also play a part.
If it is a major issue, I'm of the opinion it is best to speak your mind but not in a heated situation. Set the stage so that the discussion can at least start level headed and be open to listening to the opposing side. Festering resentment can have truly horrible consequences on relationships that usually end up in regret from one or both parties.
I think because of the self-sacrifice and group mentality emphasized in many Asian cultures this may be a greater problem there than in some other societies, but this is also an issue in any parent-child relationship, or in any relationship in general.
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nobahn
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:04 pm
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Japan may be a nice place to visit, but I sure wouldn't want to live there.....
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Suena
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:10 pm
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If there's one thing my parents taught me, it's to never reveal your true opinions to people in real life. Fortunately, now I have the internet for that.
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FD2Raptor
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:14 pm
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A mistranslation in the article:
言えって言ったから言ったのに (iette ittakara ittanoni)
>Daughter (thinking): Able to say it, because I said it, even though I said it
*literally: I only said it because you told me to spoke up...
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rinmackie
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:34 pm
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Suena wrote: | If there's one thing my parents taught me, it's to never reveal your true opinions to people in real life. Fortunately, now I have the internet for that. |
Real life has taught me that too. I feel I'm more open on the internet, but even then I feel I have to be careful.
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Afezeria
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:33 pm
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Parents not allowing their children to voice out their true opinion and make it as if they are elligible in doing so, eventhough that the action would certainly resulted in an extreme debate and hatred which might burnt the whole family down? That's pretty much a problem everywhere on Earth, not just in Japan. This is one of the root that would lead to child abuse, runaway kids and divorce. It's a worldwide problem that isn't going to be gone just like that, not until everyone sober up, learnt to become more appreciative and open minded, turning into a martyr. Sadly, that's an impossible feat to reach and a fight within a family is similar to a fight between other people, and it ain't going to stop happening because we all think differently. There's no utopia in this reality so might as well just live out your life according to your preference, learn to respect your kids and parent more and see where you would be heading into the future.
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TravellinMatt77
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:01 pm
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Kudos to this mangaka for even creating the manga. This is an important topic of discussion, and any contribution is welcome. My two cents on the issue would be to plea for a rational discussion, in which both parties have their say without interruption or rash condemnation. Easier said than done, but it would be a start.
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Alan45
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:13 pm
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The solution is easy. Just say no to having children in the first place. No kids, no arguments.
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Tenebrae
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:23 pm
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rinmackie wrote: | Real life has taught me that too. I feel I'm more open on the internet, but even then I feel I have to be careful. |
Why though? Nobody knows you on the internet, and nobody lacks so much common sense as to reveal details about themselves behind their pseudonyms... I hope. (For example, if you were to google search my real name, you will find no photos nor any writings that can be attributed to me.)
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nobahn
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Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 10:14 pm
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Alan45 wrote: | The solution is easy. Just say no to having children in the first place. No kids, no arguments. |
Amen, brother!
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Kadmos1
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:34 am
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Japanese values at is best. While this is my Western value upbringing speaking, it would be nice to see more anime where the obnoxious little kid does get spanked or put in time-out.
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Zin5ki
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:05 am
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Alan45 wrote: | The solution is easy. Just say no to having children in the first place. No kids, no arguments. |
Well, I shall admit that overpopulation is a pressing issue in many nations. One imagines it would be a shame to contribute thereto...
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Alan45
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:27 am
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@Zin5ki
I wasn't worried about overpopulation, I just don't like and can't deal with children. I didn't like children when I was one. I think it is the irrationality that they pose.
When I was high school age, at a family gathering the subject came up and I declared that while I might get married as some future date I would not have kids. I was assured I would change my mind when I got older. It hasn't happened yet.
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Vanadise
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:37 pm
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Weird, this is basically what every conversation with my mom was like.
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