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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:34 am
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I was searching on B Project because I was curious if there was any discussion of it anywhere (the ending was wtf and I didn't want to start a new thread just for that).
So searching on "B Project" "In the Forum" gave me pages and pages of results, but most of them not only have nothing to do with that title, but the text shown in the list is the same, regardless of the topic (there were some genuine hits).
Here, a picture's worth 1000 words (notice in the 4th, there is unique text, then it launches into the same lines from the summer Preview Guide):
I tried to reproduce it with some other titles, but to no avail. I'm mostly just curious about what's going on. (I'm using Firefox 48.01)
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Merida
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:40 am
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I was having the same problem - not the technical one, that i cannot reproduce - but the one of not having a thread to express my frustration about this completely WTF-ish trainwreck of an ending. So, you are not alone.
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Touma
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:49 am
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Gina Szanboti wrote: | So searching on "B Project" "In the Forum" gave me pages and pages of results, but most of them not only have nothing to do with that title, but the text shown in the list is the same, regardless of the topic (there were some genuine hits). |
I was able to reproduce what you saw, but I had to get there a different way.
If I used the "In the forums" option from the drop-down menu in the search box it seemed to use the forum search engine, which is different from the site search engine.
That gave me only 393 results and did not have the problem of the bogus "Second Plate - B-PROJECT - Rewrite" text in the results.
If I selected "anywhere on the site" from the search box menu and then clicked on "Forum" on the results page then I got the same results that you did.
I do not actually know anything but I suspect that this is happening because the site search engine is looking at things that are not actually part of the content of the page.
I have a similar problem when I use the Firefox "Find" function on this site. It "finds" text that is hidden in the navigation menus at the top of each page. That text is not actually part of the page and I do not see it unless I click on a menu item, but Firefox does see it even when it is hidden from me.
Something similar might be happening here.
I checked a few of the search results and did find at least some of those terms under "New Anime" at the top of the page.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 9:45 pm
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I think I actually tried it both ways. Initially I went through the search bar in the header (thought I selected forum, but ended up with All, and refined to forum), but no matter how I came at it, it gave the weird results as though it were searching the thumbnails that happened to be on the same page as the posts back then. But it also seems strange that it only seems to happen with that title - I tried to think of titles that wouldn't have many posts, but I was kind of drawing a blank at the time, and gave up after 3 tests failed to reproduce it.
Oh well, it's no big deal, and I'm sure there are much more pressing problems to investigate at this time of year. I was just curious about it.
(I think you added something since this morning, or I was too sleepy to see it then)
Quote: | I have a similar problem when I use the Firefox "Find" function on this site. It "finds" text that is hidden in the navigation menus at the top of each page. |
Yes, that's kind of frustrating. If I'm searching for a title in the Encyclopedia, sometimes I can just type the first word and it will jump to where it is, but more often than not I have to scroll down the list manually (which is faster than all the keystrokes for a global Find), and in articles and posts I often can't tell without a lot of extra fussing whether a word actually appears on a page or not.
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Tempest
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 11:20 am
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Our main search is Google Powered, and it kind of sucks.
We have development budget copming up next year, most of which is tasked towards major projects, but site search is pretty important, so I'll try to set some a side to either building our own, working site-search, or fixing the Google Search.
-t
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:46 pm
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I think Touma gave me the answer I was looking for, but improving the search engine would definitely be most appreciated, and I don't think I'm speaking just for myself, though I really don't have many complaints about it.
So thank you! I hope you can find the budget to support that. If it comes to pass, you might also find it useful to ask the readers how they use search, and what ideas and improvements they'd like to see implemented.
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