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Lemonchest
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 11:46 am
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I actually liked the second half of AgK more than the first. I never bought into the pretensions of the show & the manga fans that it was anything other than bad, edgelord schlock; so the second half's decision to say screw it, get Esdeth's tits out, kill everyone & have a giant robot because why not was the decent into stupidity that the show needed for me to not put it at Tokyo Ghoul levels of crap. Admittedly part of that fun came from watching the reaction of manga fans as it spiraled downward, which isn't something that really adds to it now.
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jr240483
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 12:08 pm
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its more or less one of the reasons why i dropped this series. especially the last two episodes where that last round of killing off of main characters was the monkey that broke the camel's back for me.i mean this feels way too much like X:1999. more or less the same way i felt for season two for tokyo ghoul.hopefully the manga for both series have a better outcome than their anime versions.
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belvadeer
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 2:20 pm
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I know the anime won't win any awards, but at least it was a good way to burn half an hour on Saturday nights.
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Videogamep
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 3:01 pm
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The second half didn't bother me that much since I never had huge expectations. It made for some good mindless entertainment with a couple of decent character moments, but was nowhere near as good as some people made it out to be.
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Levitz9
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 6:28 pm
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I'll never understand how this series got so huge. Esdeath's rack only accounts for so much, the writing is just so bad.
Here's an example: Esdeath is trying to convince the protagonist to join the Empire. The protagonist insists that's wrong, because he can't ignore his convictions or his old friends--but has no problem trying to use Esdeath's lust for him as a tool to make her join the Night Raid! 'because, y'know, her friends and convictions don't matter.
This show was all style, no substance.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:56 pm
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I never really pegged Syura's voice as being stereotypically gay. Flamboyant, sure. But not gay.
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killjoy_the
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 7:58 pm
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I liked the part where every character I disliked died. I disliked the part where the few characters I liked also died.
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Top Gun
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:47 pm
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Levitz9 wrote: | I'll never understand how this series got so huge. Esdeath's rack only accounts for so much, the writing is just so bad. |
Oh lord yes. I think I'd need to delve down for a grade lower than F to adequately describe how godawful the show's writing and overall storytelling turned out. By the end it was getting almost physically painful to sit through each episode, though at least it was tempered a bit by the constant refrain of, "Oh my God, someone actually got paid to write that?!" I didn't care about any of the sub-one-dimensional characters at all, which wound up being a good thing because the show seemed to revel in going all kill-'em-all Tomino and offing most of the cast without any reason whatsoever. Seriously, when you kill your main protagonist an episode before the finale, and spend all of 30 seconds or so acknowledging his passing? That's a special level of incompetent. I've said it elsewhere, but Akame ga Kill feels for all the world like someone gathered a group of 12-year-old boys in a room with pencils and a typewriter, and said, "Okay, now come up with the most hardcore super awesome cartoon you can think of!" It's as subtle as a bag of wet cement to the face. I'm just glad someone didn't pay me to write a full-fledged review of it, because about all I could muster would be linking to the infamous Billy Madison quiz show clip.
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 8:53 pm
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Top Gun wrote: |
Levitz9 wrote: | I'll never understand how this series got so huge. Esdeath's rack only accounts for so much, the writing is just so bad. |
Oh lord yes. I think I'd need to delve down for a grade lower than F to adequately describe how godawful the show's writing and overall storytelling turned out. By the end it was getting almost physically painful to sit through each episode, though at least it was tempered a bit by the constant refrain of, "Oh my God, someone actually got paid to write that?!" I didn't care about any of the sub-one-dimensional characters at all, which wound up being a good thing because the show seemed to revel in going all kill-'em-all Tomino and offing most of the cast without any reason whatsoever. Seriously, when you kill your main protagonist an episode before the finale, and spend all of 30 seconds or so acknowledging his passing? That's a special level of incompetent. I've said it elsewhere, but Akame ga Kill feels for all the world like someone gathered a group of 12-year-old boys in a room with pencils and a typewriter, and said, "Okay, now come up with the most hardcore super awesome cartoon you can think of!" It's as subtle as a bag of wet cement to the face. I'm just glad someone didn't pay me to write a full-fledged review of it, because about all I could muster would be linking to the infamous Billy Madison quiz show clip. |
I was waiting for you to respond, and I am not disappointed by your reaction.
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SquadmemberRitsu
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:26 pm
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Not that I've gotten much further than the first few episodes, but I really don't understand what people are talking about when they say the second half is 'disappointing'. Like, you're telling me that what I just saw was 'the good part'?
The writer seems to have just taken a bunch of random elements from his favourite manga, TV shows and video games because he thought they were cool but didn't really understand what made those moments great or how to string it together. Sure Game of Thrones had gratuitous violence and constant death but there's a lot more to it than that.
The weird 'medieval but not really' setting with wildly inconsistent fashion (Why does the lead guy wear a sweater?) and technology, the constant barrage of meaningless violence, the cast of bland stereotypes and for God's sake don't get me started on its awful sense of humour and complete lack of good comedic timing. 'Hey this person just got killed and it's a really sad moment please cry. LOL! Random comedy scene! Please laugh!'.
To be perfectly honest I don't see how the show could get much worse.
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ChibiKangaroo
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:45 pm
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There's a reason the show was so popular and made its way to Toonami.
Yea, it wasn't as good as it could have been. Still though, I had a blast watching it.
I agree the romance between Tatsumi and Esdeath was pretty bizarre at the end. I wasn't sure what to make of that ending part. However, I don't think the idea of the romance was stupid. It totally made sense. Esdeath's character was irredeemably evil, but despite her obsession with being the strongest and everything, she had to have at least ONE weakness. Everyone has at least one. It would have been more stupid if they had made her a flawless villain. Her weakness was that there was one thing she couldn't conquer and that was the concept of love. For most villains, they would just ignore that and treat it as silly, but she is way too greedy and wants to have EVERYTHING. She can't stand the idea of something being beyond her grasp. So that's why she obsessed over Tatsumi. It wasn't love in the sense that a normal human being would think of it, but maybe more like a freakish kind of lust. But again, that made her weak in some ways. She made mistakes when it came to Tatsumi.
So yea, I thought it was actually kind of smart how they played her character in that way. I just thought they botched the ending, but that was probably more of a time issue than anything else. I don't think this show had a Naruto/Bleach-like budget to work with. I've said for a long time if they could have stretched this out for another 26 episodes, it would have been truly special, but they didn't have that and they made do with what they did have.
Overall it is solid entertainment, which again, is why it is on Toonami and doing well with audiences. It didn't achieve greatness but I'd still give it a B at a minimum.
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CelestialEmpress
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:54 pm
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ChibiKangaroo wrote: | There's a reason the show was so popular and made its way to Toonami. |
Remember how Tenchi Muyo GXP was on Toonami and hated by pretty much everyone because of how terrible it was?
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Takkun4343
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 9:56 pm
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CelestialEmpress wrote: |
ChibiKangaroo wrote: | There's a reason the show was so popular and made its way to Toonami. |
Remember how Tenchi Muyo GXP was on Toonami and hated by pretty much everyone because of how terrible it was? |
Only unlike GXP, people actually actively wanted AgK on Toonami. GXP was just Demarco's attempt to air something Tenchi on Toonami 2.0 that horribly backfired.
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CelestialEmpress
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:02 pm
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Takkun4343 wrote: |
CelestialEmpress wrote: |
ChibiKangaroo wrote: | There's a reason the show was so popular and made its way to Toonami. |
Remember how Tenchi Muyo GXP was on Toonami and hated by pretty much everyone because of how terrible it was? |
Only unlike GXP, people actually actively wanted AgK on Toonami. GXP was just Demarco's attempt to air something Tenchi on Toonami 2.0 that horribly backfired. |
My point was, as much as I enjoy Toonami, a run on it isn't strictly a seal of quality.
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ChibiKangaroo
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2016 10:06 pm
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Okay, but a fan favorite show that ends up on Toonami is generally pretty darn good or at least solid entertainment. My comment was really more that this is not a "C" show (or whatever lower grade some other people seemed to be giving it). I really enjoyed it, but I'm being pretty objective I think in saying it is a B show.
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