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penguintruth
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:53 pm
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Between this and the new novel, they're really trying to squeeze as much as possible out of this title.
I bought each of the Blu-Rays at their super hefty price when they came out and feel foolish for it. Bandai's not getting that much money out of me for The Origin. That's a rental until they can lower their absurd prices.
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Deacon Blues
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:08 pm
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The novel isn't new. It's just combining the "-The War After the War-" and the "Phoenix Hunter" novels together for an official release to the public rather then being a game novel extra and an extra from the lineart booklets.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:36 pm
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Shouldn't they have done this when Unicorn was still fresh? Is it because IBO is bombing or something?
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Hoppy800
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:39 pm
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They should be milking IBO, it needs a season 2 badly, Unicorn is finished at least the OVAs are, no need for a TV series.
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relyat08
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:50 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Shouldn't they have done this when Unicorn was still fresh? Is it because IBO is bombing or something? |
The sales numbers for IBO have been pretty solid so far, so I doubt that's the reason.
It can't hurt to have a little extra money to work with, though. This seems like a pretty easy way to get it.
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FenixFiesta
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Posted: Sat Feb 20, 2016 11:55 pm
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Shouldn't they have done this when Unicorn was still fresh? Is it because IBO is bombing or something? |
It is about pushing the MERCH, by showing off Unicorn on a general broadcast it means the younger generation just might spend there parents money on the already existing Unicorn kits.
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#sukkar
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:02 am
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walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Shouldn't they have done this when Unicorn was still fresh? Is it because IBO is bombing or something? |
So, oddly enough, I don't think it has anything to do with IBO's performance.
Sunrise has produced shows in the 7 AM Sunday slot on TV Asahi for about eight years now - the two Dinosaur King shows, six Battle Spirits, Tribe Cool Crew, and the most recent, Brave Beats, a spiritual successor to Tribe.
By the time UC starts, Brave Beats will be 22 episodes into what was assumed to have been a full year run. (Tribe also ran for a year) The main selling component for these shows are their 3DS games, that usually come out towards the end of the show's run. Brave Beats being cancelled before that game is even announced leads me to one conclusion - the show is tanking in ratings so badly that TV Asahi pulled the plug.
So, we're left with a couple of interesting situations: either Sunrise wants to hold on to this time slot and are airing UC here as they scramble to produce a new show or they're locked into finishing out the year that Brave Beats was presumably going to run.
As far as their kids shows go, Sunrise is premiering Battle Spirits Double Drive soon, Aikatsu Stars was just copyrighted, so we know that's coming, and Brave Beats was less than half way into its run. It's likely that Brave Beats was cancelled and Sunrise just have nothing else to air.
My guess is that we'll see a new kids show from Sunrise once UC's run comes to an end.
This also raises some interesting scenarios as far as UC is concerned. It's airing during TV Asahi's Sunday Morning Kids time, a block featuring Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, and Pretty Cure. There are probably going to be some interesting edits on this broadcast to keep the show kosher with the typical demographic watching at that time of the morning.
This is also the first time since the V/G/W/X run that Gundam and Sentai will have run back to back.
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KH91
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:14 am
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Guess I'll just watch for the OP and ED.
Will be disappointed when "RE:I AM" doesn't play.
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jroa
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:29 am
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I didn't have much of a problem with Gundam Unicorn to begin with, but this TV edit really just comes across as a transparent cash-grab.
They'll probably add a couple of new scenes while still recycling 95% of the existing footage, yet that's not really worth my time (much less money). Unless I ever strongly feel like rewatching Unicorn for some reason, this isn't going to be on my radar.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:50 am
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I guess needing to hold onto a time slot and having a property ready to go makes the most sense. So yeah it's a cash grab, but in a more round-about way, because they need the slot to sell more stuff down the line.
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BardielXIII
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:04 am
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penguintruth wrote: | I bought each of the Blu-Rays at their super hefty price when they came out and feel foolish for it. Bandai's not getting that much money out of me for The Origin. That's a rental until they can lower their absurd prices. |
You shouldn't feel any foolish, you supported something you like; so good on you.
Had to be frugal and wait, but thankfully luck out with a pretty favorable CAD-Yen exchange; for Vols 1-5 back in '12 to get a collection started I still enjoy.
The Origin OVAs I'm not likely to try this time, we were thankfully(Seriously Vertical people you rock with that one!) given a manga option. Plus at just four episodes(if they don't extend the count), this comes off as just expensive prologue before Sunrise announces a Origin TV series when the 40th Anniv. hits; the one I'll want to put the effort and money gouged out and blood-soaked towards collecting...
walw6pK4Alo wrote: | Shouldn't they have done this when Unicorn was still fresh? Is it because IBO is bombing or something? |
Most likely some of what 'FenixFiesta' wrote, but want to think so it can give them a cushion of time to get work done on a season 2 of IBO I think.
Though I'm honestly still unsure, since they're making it a two cour length show(26 Eps); so a IBO S2 would start winter '17 then. A gap that wide is worrying to me if that's how it turns out.
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Alabaster Spectrum
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:20 am
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This is basically just the same thing that was done with Space Battleship Yamato by Bandai. Don't see the reason for so much speculation and relation to IBO. They often turn Gundam series into compilation movies too so it works both ways
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penguintruth
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:20 am
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Unit450 wrote: |
You shouldn't feel any foolish, you supported something you like; so good on you.
Had to be frugal and wait, but thankfully luck out with a pretty favorable CAD-Yen exchange; for Vols 1-5 back in '12 to get a collection started I still enjoy. |
Don't get me wrong, Unicorn is a great Gundam OVA, and I don't feel bad about supporting it monetarily. But it didn't need to be THAT expensive. 50 dollars for 50 minutes of content is pretty absurd to begin with, but then those last two volumes were extra expensive because they were slightly longer. And by then, what am I supposed to do? Leave the collection incomplete and not see the end of it?
They knew what they were doing. Never again. They're just as bad as Aniplex.
But with my luck, all of Unicorn will get a cheaper Blu-Ray release in a few years. I should have learned my lesson with Royal Space Force: Wings of the Honneamise. Sigh. Maybe I should have just gone with the DVDs.
At least the older Gundam stuff is getting more reasonably prices.
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Zetabag
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:48 am
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jroa wrote: | I didn't have much of a problem with Gundam Unicorn to begin with, but this TV edit really just comes across as a transparent cash-grab.
They'll probably add a couple of new scenes while still recycling 95% of the existing footage, yet that's not really worth my time (much less money). Unless I ever strongly feel like rewatching Unicorn for some reason, this isn't going to be on my radar. |
Even if they used all of their existing footage, Sunrise would only have enough for about 20 episodes.
Episodes 1-6 are about 55 minutes each when you take away the EDs and episode 7 is 85 minutes. So that puts the Unicorn OVAs at about 415 minutes. TV episodes have about 21 minutes of footage if you subtract the OPs and EDs. So 20 episodes would be 420 minutes.
4-6 episodes worth of new footage could definitely go a long way to expanding Unicorn's story assuming it isn't all just combat animation.
Unit450 wrote: |
Though I'm honestly still unsure, since they're making it a two cour length show(26 Eps); so a IBO S2 would start winter '17 then. A gap that wide is worrying to me if that's how it turns out. |
The article says Unicorn would start airing in April so wouldn't that mean IBO S2 could start airing as early as Fall 2016?
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Hellsoldier
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Posted: Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:49 am
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Hoppy800 wrote: | They should be milking IBO, it needs a season 2 badly, Unicorn is finished at least the OVAs are, no need for a TV series. |
Second season was already announced.
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