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HeeroTX
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:52 am
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I gotta be honest, this part is where I completely checked out on Genshiken. I have no idea what happens, or even if it continued after this.
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maximilianjenus
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:01 pm
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nice review; this si probably the worse genshiken has gotten, yet it's still better than the average harem adn the review states the reasons why.
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Merida
Joined: 21 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:15 pm
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Quote: | but Genshiken treats its characters like people |
I think that's the main reason why this arc with its basic plot of "when will Madarame finally get laid and who's gonna be The One" still works.
It would have been all to easy easy to play Hato's character for laughs for example, but i'm pleasantly surprised at how seriously and sensitively his gender identity issues and his attraction to Madarame have been treated so far.
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Animegomaniac
Joined: 16 Feb 2012
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:50 pm
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HeeroTX wrote: | I gotta be honest, this part is where I completely checked out on Genshiken. I have no idea what happens, or even if it continued after this. |
For me, it was this part combined with that pre season 2 chapter that shows Sue continuously visits Madarame's house or that season 2 chapter where Sue broke out of her own decided character made of anime meme speak and actually spoke proper Japapnese to Madarame about... well, doesn't really matter, does it?
And that's the problem. Hato hijacked the entire franchise "This is the new face of today's otaku" A lot more women, fair enough "and this is what they want! BL and Madarame x Hato!" What?
We covered that already in the first season and one problem is that Hato's not even as interesting as Sasahara. While he's both more generic and boring, Sasahara is also oddly decisive, especially once he decides to become an editor or pursuing the love minefield that is Ogiue. Hato is a crossdressing manga artist who can only draw when he's dressed as a woman who may or may not be gay and his character is that he can only be in that gray undecided area and when he comes out- of that gray area, please keep focused- that's the end of his use to the series because that's all he is.
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HeeroTX
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 4:22 pm
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Animegomaniac wrote: | And that's the problem. Hato hijacked the entire franchise "This is the new face of today's otaku" A lot more women, fair enough "and this is what they want! BL and Madarame x Hato!" What? |
Totally agree, it should instead be titled "Hato" and be a "extension" of Genshiken rather than a "continuation", because it is ALL about Hato. If you love the Hato character then you will like Genshiken 2, if you don't LOVE the Hato character (or at LEAST "like" him) then I think you will just eventually get SICK of him. I really, really , REALLY wanted to know more about Yoshitake & Yajima, but Kio just said "nope, just gonna force feed you MORE Hato".
Full disclosure, I actually didn't like Kasukabe (in G1) that much either (since its SUPPOSED to be a series about OTAKU), but resolving that thread for G1 with Madarame was an interesting idea... until it meant "hey, you know what THAT means, it means we can now go FULL BORE with HATO!!!!!!"
To me, in G1, Sasahara, Ohno, Oguie, Madarame & Saki were ALL really fleshed out characters that we got to spend time really getting to know and understand. (Kousaka, Tanaka & Kugayama were more "background" characters) In G2, I feel like EVERYONE (including most of the G1 characters that we know) is a "background" character EXCEPT... HATO!!
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TheBigN
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2016 1:04 am
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It depends on what you're looking for, I guess. The second generation of Genshiken is just that, so it makes sense that focuses would be different then the initial interpretation. As someone who likes the first generation more, I still find this generation interesting, and especially Hato's struggles. Genshiken to me has always been about people who are otaku versus just otaku, and when the situation gets silly in some cases (like the Madarame harem concept in general), that interpretation keeps things grounded. After that, it just a matter of which characters you'd like to know more about.
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