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DontmesswithKarma
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:53 pm
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I'M SO EXCITED FOR THIS!!! Tbh I expect a shitty plot and more PLOT than actual plot. but I absolutely love Lerche and how they present and handle a series so this should be incredibly enjoyable at the least. I can never get enough Lerche
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CrowLia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:27 pm
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Quote: | Lux accidentally trespasses in a female dormitory's bathing area, sees the kingdom's new princess Lisesharte naked, and incurs her wrath. Lisesharte then challenges Lux to a Drag-Ride duel. Drag-Rides are ancient armored mechanical weapons that have been excavated from ruins all around the world. Lux used to be called the strongest Drag-Knight, but now he's known as the "undefeated weakest" Drag-Knight because he will absolutely not attack in battle. After his duel with Lisesharte, Lux ends up attending the female-only academy that trains royals to be Drag-Knights. |
Isn't this like the exact same plot of at least three different series that premiered in Fall. I'm pretty sure the "walking in on naked girl" was part of at least three different episodes 1 this season. I mean, I knew the Magic High School anime was very prolific these days, but these seem to be literal copy pastes of the exact same thing over and over. Do people even buy these cookie-cutter anime anymore?
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L'Imperatore
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:22 pm
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CrowLia wrote: | Do people even buy these cookie-cutter anime anymore? |
Considering the fact that these shows keep being made.... yes?
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CrowLia
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:00 pm
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L'Imperatore wrote: |
CrowLia wrote: | Do people even buy these cookie-cutter anime anymore? |
Considering the fact that these shows keep being made.... yes? |
I mean, sure, I guess someone's buying them, but has any of the recent ones been enough of a hit to make anime producers/LN editors want to make a million of the same thing with different titles?
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Ali07
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:31 pm
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CrowLia wrote: | I mean, sure, I guess someone's buying them, but has any of the recent ones been enough of a hit to make anime producers/LN editors want to make a million of the same thing with different titles? |
I'll just copy and paste:
L'Imperatore wrote: | Considering the fact that these shows keep being made.... yes? |
Wonder what this one will be like. While the two series with similar premises this season, in Chivalry of a Failed Knight and Asterisk War have been enjoyable to me (I've really liked Chivalry), I don't really see much online chatter about these two.
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:45 pm
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People don't buy them. The sales are normally very low with few exceptions like IS.
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CrowLia
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:15 am
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Spotlesseden wrote: | People don't buy them. The sales are normally very low with few exceptions like IS. |
That's exactly my point. They're making dozens of the exact same show per season, but I don't recall any of them really being a blockbuster, heck hardly making passable sales? The second season of IS did great and iirc Mahouka sold fine too, but it's not like either of them did Madoka or Monogatari numbers to grant the amount of cookie cutter clone series we've been getting the past year
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getchman
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:34 am
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then I'd guess that the light novels these shows are adapted from are getting a big enough sales boost to keep making these shows
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CrownKlown
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:26 am
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Strike the Blood, Mahouka and DxD both sell/sold well.
Besides with Light Novels the sales of the light novels are more important, and most of these do pretty well there.
But hey one can say the same about all these moe shows, we get about three or four of these a year, when its about three or four girls doing random slice of life activity x. Or how about Dances with Diablok Lovers, random shoujo reverse harems with demons/vampires. Or how about Naruto's deadly sin at hero's academy, yeah these ones are really original.
Look pretty much no show is even close to original anymore, and at this point its about execution and target demographic. So you either take a reused concept and put it in a slick package like Kill ala Kill or Madoka, or you make the same show that a group really likes over and over again, because well thats what they like.
Honestly I really can't think of any show that came out this year that I thought was at least mildly refreshing, maybe Overlord and that sold well, and Rokka which sold poorly imo due the poor idea of animating only the first novel, thereby killing the show before it could even begin.
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Ali07
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:53 am
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Yep, could be that the books are getting big enough boosts, that series with a similar premise are looked at as ones that would greatly benefit from having an anime adaption.
Not every anime is considered a success purely on disc sales. And, since some are saying that similar series aren't selling that well when it comes to discs, then they are clearly getting their monies worth through sales elsewhere. And, when that is the case, the anime is considered a success buy the producers, as they spent money on it and their getting more money in return...and some disc sales may be "nice".
So, yes, people are still buying "them", when the "them" that the producers are probably looking at aren't just the disc sales in isolation.
Something like IS has other products that sell extremely well. There are some statues/figures, of the IS characters, that are worth hundreds of dollars each (some can be $300US+) that have completely sold out and are no longer being produced.
But, there's still a demand for those statues/figures, and some people have cried tears of blood buying them on the secondary market. Though, there are people that held off, and now some of those statutes/figures are being put back into production (for a limited run) where the $300US price tag is going to look "cheap".
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enurtsol
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:57 am
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They're pulling a Hollywood and running out of ideas?
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