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What do you think of Grave of Fireflies?


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alucard00



Joined: 12 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:17 am Reply with quote
hi guys again

I heard some good reviews about this movie and lately all my friends begin to recommend it to me
So what do u guys think about the show?

Pls give your comment Smile
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Vigilante024



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:18 pm Reply with quote
really good, but a def. good mood killer... I was soo depressed after seeing it...my friends want to see it but refuse to because they don't want to be sad after watching it....
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Woo Jae



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:32 pm Reply with quote
Grave of the Fireflies is directed by the other founder of Studio Ghibli, Isao Takahata, and is a very searing/harrowing portrait of two children caught up in an untenable situation. Watch it with a friend, cry together, and don't forget the box of kleenex. I promise that you won't ever see fireflies or war in the same light ever again.
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Big K



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:53 pm Reply with quote
I love this movie and I would definetely recommend it to anyone. And like everyone else posted: be prepared to cry or at least be very emotionally moved.
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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:53 pm Reply with quote
For some reason, it didn't really affect me much. There seemed to be food all over the place, and if whathisname had stayed with his jerk aunt, it seems to me that they would have survived.
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Big K



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:15 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
if whathisname had stayed with his jerk aunt, it seems to me that they would have survived.


I totally agree here. Director Takahata said in an interview that the Japanese audience sympathized with Seita (the brother) and that he was expecting more criticism of the character. I for one thought that Seita really didn't have his priorities straightened out.
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caulfield



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:24 pm Reply with quote
Its a depressing masterpiece that effectively works to broaden the viewpoint of war beyond what so many different artforms have strived to portray. Truffaut, one of my favorite French film directors, once stated that a true war film could never be made because the cinema is ingrained in the culture as such a grand experience that even tragedy comes off as heroic and epic, contrasting ideas of injustice and horror with idealistic feelings of nobility and honor. Basically saying that war films too often work opposite to their goals and subconsciously endorse warfare for its many opportunities to display spectacles of heroism. If you have read Kurt Vonnegut's wonderful and haunting novel "Slaughterhouse Five", you see that the author agrees with this idea and that this problem spans outside of the realm of cinema and applies to art in general.

But "Grave of the Fireflies" neither glamorizes or idealizes anything. It simply tells the story of people affected by a war they had next to nothing to do with. They say in the heat of warfare, it becomes difficult to determine who the real enemy is at any given point (I am going to repress my urge to get controversial and discuss Operation Iraqi Freedom), but despite this, it is always easy to see who the victims are.

,Caul
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molloaggie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 3:58 pm Reply with quote
This movie was so so so so sad. I cried and so did everybody else in class. I took a Beginning Japanese class and they showed that movie. The little sister speaks in very simple sentences so we were able to understand some of them.
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caulfield



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:24 pm Reply with quote
I didn't cry outright myself, but that riceball scene always chokes me up. My mother hates anime but I gave her the DVD for her birthday a few years back. She grew up in a country swept into a war it wanted no part of. She confessed that it brought her to tears but said it ultimately made her feel better about life (odd... most people say it just depresses the hell out of them). She proclaimed the work a triumph.

,Caul
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Kyo



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:09 pm Reply with quote
It is a really sad movie. I had tears in my eyes..
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:37 pm Reply with quote
Grave of the Fireflies is one of the best movies I have ever seen. Period. Not overly preachy about the whole "war is bad" thing. And yes, it does succeed in tugging on the ol' heart-strings. If you don't get a little misty-eyed at some point during this movie, you just may be an alien. Wink
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LordAkira2019



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 8:01 pm Reply with quote
I love Grave of the Fireflies, but because of what it is, so unique and emotional, I cannot list it as one of my favorites. Setsuko, in my opinion, is the cutest anime character I've ever seen. GotFf can never be made into a live-action movie because of the high level of emotion and I, as the cynical moviegoer I am, would be laughing my head off because I would come to realize that all of it would be fake. That is why Grave of the Fireflies is so beautiful really. There arent any actors pretending to be the characters except for the voice actors, and so you come to believe all of it. And by the end of the film, what is so depressing about the movie, is that you love Seita and Setsuko so much and then they die (you werent expecting a happy ending, were you?).
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alucard00



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 9:59 pm Reply with quote
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And by the end of the film, what is so depressing about the movie, is that you love Seita and Setsuko so much and then they die (you werent expecting a happy ending, were you?).


Actually i never expected any anime's ending whether is good or bad.
As long the anime have a good storyline from beginning till ending. Then i will watch. Very Happy
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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:59 pm Reply with quote
BigK+Fronzel: I really have to disagree with you and Takahata on that. To tell the truth, I really don't think Takahata learned anything after the war. It was a Catch 22 situation. If Seita and Setsuko stayed with their extended family, the only future for them would be being firebombed or running out of food. It would just prolong the inevitable.

But Takahata, in his traditional Japanese thinking, believes listening (read conforming) to his Aunt(read the State) would've saved them all. (I wouldn't be surprised if he volunteered to be a kamikaze pilot if he was older.) If you really
want to know the "benefits" of unquestioningly following the orders of a superior, see Kinji Fukasaku's Under the Fluttering Flag. Cus it sure as hell doesn't lead to safety.

caulfield: "But "Grave of the Fireflies" neither glamorizes or idealizes anything."

I'd disagree there. It's a narrow-minded view of the Japanese perspective, which doesn't really take into account what they did in China, Korea, and the Phillipines.

"She grew up in a country swept into a war it wanted no part of."

Well it didn't exactly look like Seita was dissatisfied with war in itself, but that his side lost. Personally, I've felt the best anti-war anime and manga was The Cockpit. It's more blatantly symapthetic to the Axis than Grave of the Fireflies, but it also has more universal truths about war.
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Big K



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:56 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
If Seita and Setsuko stayed with their extended family, the only future for them would be being firebombed or running out of food. It would just prolong the inevitable.

But Takahata, in his traditional Japanese thinking, believes listening (read conforming) to his Aunt(read the State) would've saved them all.


Granted, living day-to-day was difficult for Seita and Setsuko, but I don't think that their demise was necessarily inevitable. I may sound like a commie-socialist here (I'm a Republican BTW Wink), but if Seita stayed with his aunt and maybe lifted a finger for the good of the society then he would have had the tiny convenience of living off of, without resentment from others, a rationed food supply, albeit a small food supply. Even, with the firebombings, there were air-raid sirens so it's not like everyone died. It's better than scavenging for his own food and using the money he has to try to buy food that is being rationed for those in the "system."

Remember the scene when Setsuko was being seen by the doctor? spoiler[She was literally skin-and-bones.] Seita had an obligation here and it didn't help him or Setsuko when he decided to walk away from his best base of support.

GATSU wrote:
I'd disagree there. It's a narrow-minded view of the Japanese perspective, which doesn't really take into account what they did in China, Korea, and the Phillipines.


If the movie DID take these events into account, then I believe the movie wouldn't be as tragic and the audience may not have felt as sympathetic to the children. It's not like this movie was meant to be propaganda for war that ended decades ago.
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