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DJDay
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:01 pm
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So after my last topic, another thought came to mind. I prefer reading manga after finding out that there isn't anymore anime left for that title. But, barring any announcements, how much time should pass after a show's previous season before a further adaptation is considered out of the question (e.g 1 year or 6 months)?
[EDIT: Fixed a bunch of grammar in your post and changed the title to be more descriptive. -TK]
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Key
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:55 pm
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Fair question, but a very difficult one to answer. That's because anime history has proven that "sequel unlikely" does not necessarily mean "never." Sequels being made a decade or more after the last original content are very rare but not unheard-of, and cases of sequels being made 4-5+ years later are a bit more common.
One major example of this is the Dragon Ball franchise. Prior to the 2013 movie known in English as Battle of the Gods (which is a clear sequel to DBZ), there had been no new DB content since 1998. (Kai, as a reedited version of DBZ, had no new content and so doesn't count.) And the currently-airing Super is the first TV series since 1997. We have a potentially even more extreme example in the works, too, as there are rumors that 3x3 Eyes is soon getting its first new animation in 20 years.
As a few examples of the latter case mentioned above:
• Yatterman Nights, which aired earlier this year, was the first content for that franchise in six years.
• Inuyasha: The Final Act, which aired five years after the original series ended and just picked up exactly where the original series left off.
• The Record of Lodoss War TV series, which was a sequel to the RoLW OVA series, also came out seven years later.
• Utawarerumono is coming back to TV next month after a nine year hiatus since its last animation.
I'm sure there are numerous other examples that people can cite.
All of this being said, I'd say a general guideline is that the chances of a sequel decrease significantly if nothing is announced within a few months and dramatically if nothing is announced within three years. Having additional source content to animate does up the chances at each stage, though.
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Night fox
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:42 pm
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The retelling of Hunter x Hunter + lots of new content came 7 years after the original series had ended. (Hopefully Bleach will do a similar comeback after the manga ends with Millennium Bloodwar, but that's pure speculation.)
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Alan45
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:34 pm
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You're Under Arrest
The manga came out in 7 volumes between 1987 and 1992.
A four episode OVA in late 1995.
A 51 episode TV series (which used the OVA as the first four episodes) in 1996 and 1997.
A series of 20 five minute mini specials and a single full length episode in March and April 1999.
A movie in April 1999.
A second TV series of 26 episodes in 2001.
A 9 episode live series in late 2002
A third TV series of 23 episodes in 2007 and 2008.
As Key said, the longer the wait the less likely a new season, but anything is possible.
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Dessa
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Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:34 pm
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Key wrote: | • The Record of Lodoss War TV series, which was a sequel to the RoLW OVA series, also came out seven years later. |
Actually, Chronicles of the Heroic Knight is an alternate retelling that went into continuation. Apparently, the OAV went off the rails into a gecko ending about halfway through, and CotHK picks up right where the OAV stopped following the source, and continues from there. There's discrepancies if you try to say they're in the same continuity.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:33 am
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To Heart
The initial season started in 1999.
The show got a sequel, ~Remember My Memories~, in 2004.
One year later, in 2005, To Heart 2 happened, along with a special not too long after.
In 2007, To Heart 2 received 4 OVAs, one in each year up to 2010.
In 2012, To Heart 2 had its last OVA, Dungeon Travelers.
So yes, one never knows when a sequel or a new season will happen. The wait could be as short as a year; it may be as long as a decade or more. Some shows may never see another season at all.
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st_owly
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Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:31 pm
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I'm pretty sure Oh My Goddess kept getting OVAs every so often after the main 2 seasons finished as well.
I think it depends how much material there is to adapt. If a show has lots of material left, then an announcement at the end of the "current" season is fine by me. It's announcements for shows which barely have any material which bother me, unless the announcement is for something quite far off in the future.
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Ggultra2764
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:12 pm
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If we're talking about wait times between sequels...
-Mushishi- The first series was out in 2005 and a sequel for it didn't come out until 2014 with Mushishi: The Next Passage.
-Tenchi Muyo- The sequel to the 1990s first and second OVA titles was not out until 2003, with a series taking place several years after the third OVA's events called Tenchi Muyo GXP coming out a year before the third OVA's first episode. This disregards the various spinoff titles for Tenchi that came out during the 1990s.
-Haruhi Suzumiya franchise- There was a three-year wait between the first and second seasons (2006 and 2009, respectively).
-Gunslinger Girl- A four year wait between the first season and the second season, Il Teatrino (2004 and 2008).
-Patlabor franchise- The third movie of the Patlabor film trilogy, WXIII, came out nine years after Patlabor II's theatrical premiere in 1993.
-Black Lagoon- A four year gap between the TV anime (2006) and the OVA sequel, Roberta's Blood Trail (2010).
-Shonan Junai Gamai/ Great Teacher Onizuka- Might confuse those not so familiar with GTO series creator Tohru Fujisawa's earlier works. Eikichi Onizuka and his close friend Ryuji Danma had appeared in an earlier work of Fujisawa's called Shonan Junai Gamai that explored their time as teenage delinquents, serving as prequel to GTO. An OVA adaptation of Shonan Junai Gamai was released from 1994 to 1997, a few years before GTO's TV premiere in Japan in 1999.
-Slayers- There was a gap of eleven years between the airing of Slayers Try (1997) and Slayers Revolution (2008).
-Neighborhood Story/ Paradise Kiss- Another case of possible confusion for those only familiar with Paradise Kiss and Nana from Ai Yazawa. Yazawa's earlier work, Neighborhood Story, featured Mikako Kouda, the older sister of Parakiss character Miwako Sakurada, appearing in the series. A TV animated adaptation of Neighborhood Story premiered in 1995, 10 years before the anime adaptation of Parakiss came out.
-Kimagure Orange Road franchise- There's a eight year gap between the KOR movie, I Want to Return to That Day (1988), and its sequel, Summer's Beginning (1996).
-Macross franchise- Let's see: the original Macross was out in 1982, Macross Plus came in 1992, Macross 7 was out in 1994 and Macross Frontier in 2008. And if you want to count prequels, Macross Zero was out in 2002.
And don't get me started counting up the gaps for anime development of Universal Century titles within the Gundam franchise.
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ShiroYo
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:34 pm
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I personally keep my hopes up in the first year of waiting, then if nothing is announced I lock my expectations deep in my heart and try to not think about it.
There are some strange cases where I keep believing on a second season because of the show good reception (i.e. Skip Beat) although my brain keeps telling me that it will never happen because of the terrible sales of the first season.
PS: I believe there should be a distinction between a second season and a new entry/reboot of a franchise.
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Alan45
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 6:23 pm
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@DJDay
Something I've been meaning to mention. The problem with your concept of watching the anime first and then reading the manga is that things don't always conveniently come out that way here in the US.
In Japan they routinely get the source material, light novel and/or manga first and the anime follows. Here the manga can run for an extended time before the anime is licensed or the anime can be available and the source material follow a lot later or not at all. Some times only a portion of a light novel or manga series becomes available. You basically have to adapt to what ever pattern shows up.
If you refuse to read manga that doesn't have an associated anime, you are missing a lot.
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DJDay
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:09 pm
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thanks for all the replies. There are quite a lot of mangas I've avoided reading in-case a season 2 etc is released of the anime. Nagaserete is the only one I stated reading.
About the order of which I see the anime 1st manga 2nd, it's a mix of:
A: Finding it easier to understand stories when explained in animation and
B: It being easier to find a English sub anime than English sub manga.
I will however start trying to find English subbed manga's with or without the anime.
Note to self: Too late in the night, i'll finish this off and tidy it up tommorow
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Spotlesseden
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Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:04 am
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Most shows won'the have 2nd season at all. I would think you should wait atleast 1.5 to 2 years before you get more adaptation announcement because they need the manga to catch up. Some shows may take few years before you see new adaptation airs on tv. For some shows, you will immediately know after the first season end. Sometimes within days.
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