Forum - View topicSuggestion to Help the Frustrations of the Mods and Admins
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camelot187757
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Above is a suggestion for the admins, mods and whoever who are tired of suggestion threads, anime questions, threads that pose questions and any of the sort.
Perhaps the Forum could use a little updating in the idea of the pic below? So far there's a place for anime, a place for manga, a place for music, and a retail(?) area. However (the anime section in particular) is always rife with requests/reccomendations, questions and so on and so forth. I suggest (as seen in the pic) a sub forum for series discussions, a sub forum for anime suggestions and so-on and so-on. At the very least a sub-forum meant strictly for Anime Reccomendations I think would help out. I don't mean create a subforum to cater to every forum-user's needs (i.e. a sepreate sub-forum for Naruto, another for EVA and so forth is not what I'm suggesting) but specific areas to put user-submitted recomendations appears to be a blessing from hell. The pic itself is just a visual model. This is but a mere suggestion and feel free disregard it. -Rema http://www.4shared.com/file/6924705/efb07de8/_2__untitled.html |
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frentymon
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I made the All Discussion thread specifically with the intention of alleviating the problem of keeping track of all the series discussion threads, and I think with a bit more modification and addition to that sticky, keeping track of series-specific threads won't be much of a problem. Moving all series discussions thread to a specific forum would make it somewhat strange, since there would still be endless old series discussion threads in a forum which would no longer be meant for series discussion (it would be, IMO, very tedious work to find them all and move them).
I think a sub-forum specifically for recommendations is a good idea. Perhaps for both anime and manga recommendations alike, and the "Read this before you ask for recommendations!" sticky with the EDIT removed being the only sticky there (which makes it very noticeable). Unless it is in some way difficult to create a new subforum, I support this idea, as only a single thread for recommendations would get cluttered and extremely disorganized. |
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unhealthyman
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I would also be in favour of an anime recommendations forum IF people would use it, and it meant that the main anime forum wouldn't have quite as many 'I need sum advice lol...' threads.
However, it's not like I run ANN or have any say... Adding a new forum is, I would imagine, something that they wouldn't do lightly. And there is the risk that having a forum solely for recommendations would just encourage more people to post awful posts and it would overall increase the jobs of the mods. |
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PantsGoblin
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Then get more mods. For the size of this forum, I find it amazing that ANN really only has two (kind of one) active mods. Even the smallest forums I visit have at least three mods that are very active. I have no idea why I see Tony doing 90% of the modding (he is doing a great job though, but I just feel he does too much work here). There are more than enough people here who are qualified. Also, I would be in support of the idea introduced in this thread. |
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one3rd
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There's already a sticky recommendations thread. Making a whole new sub-forum just for recommendations would just create a sub-forum full of worthless threads and I honestly don't think it would significantly decrease the recommendation threads in the main forum. I agree, though, that ANN could use another mod or two. Nagisa and Tony K are doing a great job, but they're still real people with real lives and can't necessarily keep up with everything that's going on in the forums all of the time. |
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bluepita
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Um, where??? I think the idea of a recommendation thread is good. Although I have found a lot of anime through the different resources available, there are times when those options just don't work for me. I won't go into how, as that would turn this into a 'help me' post. however, I can understand where that might be a problem or at least low on the list of things to do. SO, count this as support without pushiness. 
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Zalis116
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P€|\||§_|\/|ast@
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Yaay it looks like Zalis is back to her - I mean - his old self again
 Congrats. And Camelot, I haven't seen you around here in a while, welcome back.
But yeah there's also alot of other things people can do offline to prevent wasteful, annoying posts. Get out there and talk with friends about your hobby, go to an anime club meeting or convention. Anime is a foreign novelty so it's understandable for the new fan to be confused by all wierd cultural references, in jokes, language barriers, names, places, dialects, production studios and artists and just finding anime that will interest you. Plus more and more anime that North Americans are being exposed to is of the otaku-oriented variety like Negima, Genshiken and Welcome to the NHK meaning it's even more foreign. But there is an anime specific Wiki and theres the Encyclopedia on this site, and like I said be sociable about your anime interests: find an anime mentor. Someone who you can call "sempai". |
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bluepita
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Ah, I already love and utilize those threads. I use a lot of the suggestions there to find anime. Right now I am working my way through the top 50 though. I also agree with the idea the whole "fishing" analogy. I hate it when someone won't bother to do five minutes of online work to help themselves.
However, neither of those are recommendation threads. They are suggestion threads on how to find anime. It's not the same thing. And, although I don't like laziness, I can see circumstances in which a recommendation is really needed. For instance (without talking about the type of anime), I'd like to find something my boyfriend might like. There is one anime I know he would like because of certain specific elements. However, starting with the real world, the few real life anime friends I have do not watch that type of anime for the most part. What they have seen there is what I have introduced them to. I've literally looked through every back recommendation thread on the site for suggestions meeting those elements, as well as countless what-is-your-favorite-anime threads and the-best-*genre here*-anime-ever threads. (You might be able to tell I've been working on this project a LONG time.) I've tried the "if you like..., you might like..." I could keep going on. Now at one point, a couple of months ago, I really would have liked to ask for help. What I am looking for is so specific that none of the traditional ways have helped. Now I am enjoying the search so much, I may be disappointed if I find one. Lol, i still haven't found a damned thing that fits what I wanted for him, but I have seen a lot of great stuff inthe search. At this point, selfishness is winning. So, although those are two of my favorite threads on the site, neither works as a recommendation thread per se. And, there is some sort of a gap that one could fill. Not to mention if there was an entire forum for that, anyone who hated them could just avoid it, they wouldn't be mixed in with the regular posts. Plus as with any other thread, there is always the option to just not read it or reply. |
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undeadben
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I don't like the idea of having an entire forum dedicated to recommendations, however I am not against recommendation threads. I think that occasionally if someone is looking for something sepcific that they can't seem to get a grasp of through other sourses, like what bluepita is talking about, as long as it is well detailed and follows the guidelines that Tony K. had originally come up with, a recommendations thread woud be ok, and it would be fine to leave it in the anime forum.
I think what everyone is tired of is a lot of really easy, really pointless queries posted by the occasional newbie, and even more occasionally by a veteran, asking for help finding titles the are more than abundant, like shounen titles for instance. I think something that would help clear clutter with recommendations while still allowing them is say something like a probationary period; a new memeber is not allowed to start a recommendations thread until they have been a member in the forum for at least 3 months (or whatever period), and have shown they are at least somewhat capable of following forum rules and etiquette when posting. And it would be easier to keep track than what one might think, after a couple of days even I'm sure most can identify a spammer who is incapable of contributing anything other than one liners and garbage in any topic they post. Anyone other than this would have no problem writing a proper recommendation thread. I know it doesn't mean much coming from me as I haven't been on this forum long and am actually one of those guilty of starting a recommendation topic my first month here, but it is just something I think might help in keeping down bad recommendation threads while still allowing room for them from the occasional member who does need specific help. Like I remember a recent one where a person wanted help finding anime to get her mom watching, which I thought was interesting and I posted a couple of ideas before the topic was locked instead of just my usual generic post, which I actually have saved in a notepad for mulitple uses. ETA: @Zalis 116 V1, glad to see you got your account back. I can't imagine the trouble you would have had to go through to redo your anime list, and other such stuff. Last edited by undeadben on Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:37 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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Area88
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I think mirroring the AOD forums so we have a seperate sub forum for 'Recommendations' is a great idea.
The problem with having recommendations all in the same thread is it becomes very cluttered and off putting. |
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one3rd
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Remember that you're asking for a sub-forum full of threads like this. Posts from new users who probably aren't going to stick around to actually contribute any intelligent discussion to the forum.
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camelot187757
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This is true but if there were a sub forum meant for series discussions and another meant for reccommendations, then those who go to site and wish to converse about anime wouldn't be bothered by an amount of posts by people who are looking for new anime because it would be in an entire new section. This is just my theory anyways. |
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one3rd
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No, because these are the kinds of people who post in the wrong threads anyway. And the pointless listing isn't something that ANN encourages. And if you compiled all of the possible information that could be repeatedly posted in these recommendation threads, because the same several series get mentioned every time, you'd have something that resembles ANN's Encyclopedia. Any user asking for recommendations would be better off browsing the forum and looking through the Top XXX user ratings lists and reading the descriptions of each title rather than posting a thread asking for the same information that tons of other people have already asked for. |
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