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GATSU



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:21 pm Reply with quote
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but they keep asking the fans to fund those Osamu Tezuka titles, and now they're asking for money to reprint one of their more popular yaoi titles.


If the Tezuka stuff was popular enough to fund on a regular basis, I'm sure DMP would just invest in it themselves. But I'm sure they were one of the companies which took the biggest hit during that manga bubble correction of the mid-2000s, because they don't have that key hit manga series [I.E. Naruto] to keep their company afloat. So, you wanna blame anyone for them having to beg for money, blame these a-holes.

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Will there ever be something like the Criterion Collection for anime?


I've actually brought it up with them, because I think they should at least do the Satoshi Kon stuff.

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Though from the looks of it after the first few episodes were released the online viewership dropped considerably as well as the DVD Blu ray sales were so-so. Yet there seems to be a ridiculous amount of official merchandise being released. Why would manufactures and bakers promote a show so hard that has so far had mediocre payoff?


The licensors were probably hoping Crystal was gonna be as big as the original Sailor Moon, but it seems that Pretty Cure took its place there. Also, they no doubt had the unexpected misfortune of putting the show out during that wave of Frozen-mania in Japan. Though the real issue is clearly of the, 'It's the same effing thing I saw back then, and they aren't really doing anything different' variety. 'Cus if you're gonna reboot Sailor Moon, anyway, then you might as well just start from scratch and just give fans something completely new, other than different character designs and title.

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But they still have all this merch. And the show is still going, so there's still a chance to offload it.


They could set up shop here, if they wanna take that risk.
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Maize Hughes



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:34 pm Reply with quote
Hi Justin!

Regarding SAD, it's possible that you have something similar. The blue diodes in LCD screens are at just the right frequency to disturb circadian rhythms. Even in sunny LA. Basically, checking your phone or watching anime late at night can fool your brain into thinking it's noon. Which everybody does, of course, so we're all having problems.

The other tidbit is that low vitamin D levels can really make you drag. It's used by the body as an ingredient for steroid hormones like Testosterone, Estrogen, and a bunch of other things, so all kinds of things start to slow down and get wonky.

It turns out that the minimum RDA was calculated back in the day when people spent time outside and ate a lot more fish and eggs. Fortunately supplements are cheap and harmless even in absurdly large doses. For instance, my grandfather takes 125 times the old RDA once a week in addition to a daily supplement. And this is not heath guru nonsense, this is prescribed by his doctor!

I really enjoyed today's post, and I'll be writing in soon with some questions.

best of luck!
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:47 pm Reply with quote
We are getting a lot of anime classics released, but often there's too much time between when BDs come in Japan and when they come out in the US, if at all. My view of where a Criterion for anime is sorely needed would be on the Japanese side of things, simply getting as many old and obscure titles as possible and releasing them on BD.
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Fronzel



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:48 pm Reply with quote
Is Sailor Moon Crystal's reception as lukewarm in Japan as it seems to be in North America?
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SailorTralfamadore



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:05 pm Reply with quote
Fronzel wrote:
Is Sailor Moon Crystal's reception as lukewarm in Japan as it seems to be in North America?


Maybe not as lukewarm, but essentially yes. The statistics about viewership drop-off that I've seen and that this person is presumably using, too, are about the Japanese streaming sites (since Crystal is a web-only release), not Crunchyroll or Hulu.
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PurpleWarrior13



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:21 pm Reply with quote
Crystal is coming to TV (with the fixed DVD/BD animation), so hopefully that will help it's popularity some. I really hope they find a way to adapt the whole series, and something tells me they might try if it's really popular overseas like DBZ Kai. Honestly, with Crystal's apparent budget, it wouldn't surprise me if it costs about the same as Kai...

I'm really glad we're getting all these older anime on proper DVD/BD releases, since I'm mostly into older shows myself (I don't even really keep up with new anime). I was always told that there's a very small market for smaller, niche anime. Guess they were wrong! Clearly SOMEBODY'S buying these!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:36 pm Reply with quote
I think that, in addition to the reasons mentioned about doing VO work, one other, big reason for the American animation process doing the VO first, at least in the case of animated films, is that investors would rather have "big names" attached to the project, and unlike in Japan, where the seiyūs are VA first, and live-action actors seconds (if at all), in the U.S., the performers are live-action actors first, and VA second. Thus, after securing a "big name," be it due to the actors' time constraints or fear of the deal falling out (actor walks-out, "creative differences," pay check issues, you name it), studios would rather close the chapter with the actors first.
Now, I don't know if that relates to the "silver screen" shows, but I guess that it something along those lines.
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:57 pm Reply with quote
PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
Crystal is coming to TV (with the fixed DVD/BD animation), so hopefully that will help it's popularity some.

Unfortunately, the Blu-Ray version of Sailor Moon Crystal presents a new set of animation errors in place of its old ones.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:02 pm Reply with quote
PurpleWarrior13 wrote:
Crystal is coming to TV (with the fixed DVD/BD animation), so hopefully that will help it's popularity some. I really hope they find a way to adapt the whole series, and something tells me they might try if it's really popular overseas like DBZ Kai.

Well, it's not. Like, at all. It's making a lot of people watch the first series though. Heck, my bro's and I watched the last 3 episodes of the first season because we didn't want to watch the shit that was episode 14 of Crystal. MAN, those deaths were brutal in the original.
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heroictype



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:46 pm Reply with quote
DmonHiro wrote:

Well, it's not. Like, at all. It's making a lot of people watch the first series though. Heck, my bro's and I watched the last 3 episodes of the first season because we didn't want to watch the shit that was episode 14 of Crystal. MAN, those deaths were brutal in the original.


I'm glad to hear that. The original Sailor Moon is a fun show, not to mention extremely heart-wrenching at times, so if Crystal mainly serves as a vehicle to get people to watch the first anime (instead of, say, turning them away from the franchise entirely), that's more than enough.

Edit: Totally unrelated, but I forgot to ask before; who's the lady in black serving as this article's image? That's a neat design.


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1thought



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:19 pm Reply with quote
I think Kickstarter has a lot of potential.

Fans say they want something let's see.

Like Viz could use it to release stuff like Urusei Yatsura the complete manga series. Or the manga of Touch, or Rose of Versailles or 80's Shonen Jump classics basically stuff they will try to tell you won't sell but fans could show them. Or even use to start up Gintama again vol 24 and up it seems to be pretty popular now. Or all those Shogakukan Seinen stuff of the Big Comics imprint. Basically the tons of things this company has exclusive rights to but does nothing with it.
Or even to reprint some of the stuff they already put out. Nobody is going to even try to collect a series with half of it or more out of print.


Discotek could try doing one for Legend of Galactic Heroes or Touch.


DMP is frustrating in that Barbara got nearly 3 times the funding and Swallowing the Earth got twice the funding for a reprint yet the books were at retailers for a minute and then gone out of print. I can understand there a small company but ....
I would think enough copies should of been made to last a little longer.
Unico also gone.

And without them in print how is anyone going to even know about DMP? Since they are basically a yaoi and hentai company.


What Animeigo did was smart in that they basically was trying to see if anyone wanted a show that been around for a long time.
And many people have probably already bought it before VHS,Laserdisc, and 2 DVD releases.

Animeigo kinda of did Kickstarter without actually getting the money right away with Kimagure Orange Road and Macross years ago.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:27 pm Reply with quote
I remember that back during the mid-to-early-late-Aughts (2006-2007), Funimation created the Viridian Line, which was billed as an anime "Criterion Collection". The idea was that Funimation would release "significant" anime in these cool sets.

Their first release was Kiddy Grade. Rolling Eyes

I bought it because I had money and I wanted to see it. In all honestly, that release is kinda weird. The box is made entirely out of recycled cardboard. I wonder how those discs held up... I haven't watch them in years...

Viridian was eventually kinda-sorta replaced by Funi's S.A.V.E. line a few years later.
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katscradle



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:41 pm Reply with quote
I was just explaining the fees and potential costs associated with Kickstarter for a guy who had never used it this week. His jaw dropped. So yes, pretty sure Digital Manga wouldn't be trying things the way they are if they had or, could get the $ in a reasonable time frame. (Btw, Stripe is now the payment processing service Kickstarter is using with a fee of between 3-5% instead of Amazon Payments.)

Have to say the sentiment in that question doesn't surprise me though. I'm not Digital Manga's biggest fan but, people seem to be mad at them something awful. I mentioned the new Tezuka Kickstarter to someone I was waiting for because they asked what was interesting on my phone. Their response was they hoped more people would become fed up with Digital Manga's b------- and ignore them so the company could shrivel up and die already.Anime smallmouth + sweatdrop
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:56 pm Reply with quote
Levitz9 wrote:
I remember that back during the mid-to-early-late-Aughts (2006-2007), Funimation created the Viridian Line, which was billed as an anime "Criterion Collection". The idea was that Funimation would release "significant" anime in these cool sets.

Their first release was Kiddy Grade. Rolling Eyes

I bought it because I had money and I wanted to see it. In all honestly, that release is kinda weird. The box is made entirely out of recycled cardboard. I wonder how those discs held up... I haven't watch them in years...

Viridian was eventually kinda-sorta replaced by Funi's S.A.V.E. line a few years later.



Some of the explanation of the packaging can be attributed to "going green" being a popular thing for businesses to say they were doing at the time which is why the packaging was made from recycled material, and even why they chose Viridian as the name.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:06 pm Reply with quote
Hameyadea wrote:
I think that, in addition to the reasons mentioned about doing VO work, one other, big reason for the American animation process doing the VO first, at least in the case of animated films, is that investors would rather have "big names" attached to the project, and unlike in Japan, where the seiyūs are VA first, and live-action actors seconds (if at all), in the U.S., the performers are live-action actors first, and VA second.

Also Hollywood voicings are usually done by single actors in isolation, especially on shows with expensive talent whose schedules may not permit them to perform collectively. Anime recording sessions typically include multiple cast members.

Directory Matsuo Kou used the voices-first method on both Red Garden and Kurenai. In some scenes, like the one in Kurenai episode three at Shinkarou's school, there are some spirited multi-way conversations where the actors talk over and interrupt each other. It made for a much more natural flow to the dialogue since real humans often don't wait for the other person to finish before speaking!
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