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GATSU
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:22 pm
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I don't see how TnA has any worse sexual content than most fanservice anime which is legal in Oz.
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Forte-sama
Joined: 24 Dec 2005
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:34 pm
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Everything that has happened to this game outside of Japan and North America is insane and/or sad. Really, you'd think they would at least know about the games and what they contain before they give it a rating. Ha ha.
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JuicyB
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:46 pm
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Oh, isn't it that insane kiddy porn game? I do hope that anyone who buys it gets arrested and thrown in prison with all the murderers and rapists where they belong.
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Brand
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:12 pm
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JuicyB wrote: | Oh, isn't it that insane kiddy porn game? I do hope that anyone who buys it gets arrested and thrown in prison with all the murderers and rapists where they belong. |
Uh, what? Are you familiar with DOA franchise? Sure, its got an awful lot of T&A but kiddy porn it's not.
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R315r4z0r
Joined: 30 Aug 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:17 pm
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Only Australia would take a fighting game and manage to legally turn it into child porn.
Before we know it, it's going to be illegal for video games to have humans in them because humans can have sex and sex is disgraceful...
brand wrote: |
JuicyB wrote: | Oh, isn't it that insane kiddy porn game? I do hope that anyone who buys it gets arrested and thrown in prison with all the murderers and rapists where they belong. |
Uh, what? Are you familiar with DOA franchise? Sure, its got an awful lot of T&A but kiddy porn it's not. |
He was being sarcastic...
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stararnold
Joined: 22 Sep 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:29 pm
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"Dead or Alive" has been about nothing but battle tournaments for years and while porno = explicit sex, trying to associate the game franchise with kiddie porn is bogus. Plus, all the characters look like adults, not teens or kiddies. At least the movie based on it used adult actors for the roles and ended up being rated PG-13 not NC-17 otherwise that film would suffer the same accusation fate as the video game as well.
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Jaymie
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:39 pm
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I know some people are going to over-dramatize this as they usually do, but this isn't that big of a deal. They just banned it from being sold until it gets reclassified. I think they did the right thing in this situation.
Even people who get off of underage animated girls can agree that DoA is not PG, right?
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Unholy_Nny
Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:00 pm
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R315r4z0r wrote: | Only Australia would take a fighting game and manage to legally turn it into child porn. |
That was Sweden, not Australia.
All Australia is doing is revoking the rating so Nintendo can re-submit so they can re-rate it. They'll probably bump it up to M (Australian M = American T)
It's just that without a rating it becomes illegal to distribute.
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Drango
Joined: 14 Jun 2011
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:06 pm
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So, from what I can gather of this, if it wasn't for 3 of the female characters being 'legally minors', they'd be fine with selling this game (or 'pornography' as they're trying to call it) to real minors with it's upskirt photo gimmick still intact...?
When it comes down to it, the age of these character is just a number that someone at some point during character development tacked on to them that just happens to be less than 18...
I mean, really, would anybody really think any of those characters 'looked too young' if they'd just been given a number like 18, 19, or 20 instead?
I'm not justifying child porn, fictional or non, no, I just don't see how this particular 'example' deserves this kind of negative attention, especially since you've been able to see up these characters skirts since.... well... Since DoA1 I believe? (certainly DoA2, and I WAS a minor while I was playing that game)
If DoA is porn, then they should make all clothing catalogues be kept in the 18+ section as well. It's that absurd to me...
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v1cious
Joined: 31 Dec 2002
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:24 pm
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What is wrong with the Australian government these days? First they banned Mortal Kombat, and now Dead or Alive, which is tame by comparison. I see zero hope for Ninja Gaiden 3, and Gears 3.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:50 pm
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Unholy_Nny wrote: |
R315r4z0r wrote: | Only Australia would take a fighting game and manage to legally turn it into child porn. |
That was Sweden, not Australia.
All Australia is doing is revoking the rating so Nintendo can re-submit so they can re-rate it. They'll probably bump it up to M (Australian M = American T)
It's just that without a rating it becomes illegal to distribute. |
Yes, but Australia is just jumping on the bandwagon too. There's no nudity or sex in the game. Game is banned because of a feature that allows you to zoom all around the character, which is nothing new in gaming.
Whether it is deserved or not, Australia has a bad reputation when it comes to its government's reception of anime, which is only added to by their secret blacklists on the internet.
You are probably right that it will eventually come out in Australia, the problem is when multiple countries ban a game, it then becomes more cost effective to censor it or dumb it down for all countries.
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divinemango
Joined: 04 Jan 2009
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:54 pm
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Yes these girls are clearly underage, while some other flying lolis are actually listed as millennia-old witches. They are also voiced by 40-year-old voice actresses, and have their stories written by old geezers.
If something is considered legally questionable because of some written words in an arbitrary description, you know how fucked up the system is. Stop applying your stupid rules to characters in fiction (OK do we need an age of consent for them too ? Would be bad if the author forced them to do something against their will). Stop blaming things on fiction and NOT your inability to provide proper parenting and education (apparently being unable to tell the difference between fiction and reality is a game's fault).
Oh wait I have been assuming lawmakers are open to reason and self-righteous pricks don't like to impose their laughable values upon things they don't even try to comprehend.
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DTJB
Joined: 20 Jan 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:05 pm
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First MK and now DoA, stay classy you silly Aussies.
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taster of pork
Joined: 11 Nov 2008
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:15 pm
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Does it actually say in the game that the characters are under 18 or are they just basing this off of the way they look?
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The American Average
Joined: 17 Sep 2010
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Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:24 pm
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oh Australia prude aren't you? well they did ban Mortal Kombat 9 earlier
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