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Key
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:37 pm Reply with quote
Anime Selects is currently carrying the first two episodes of this series (for those of you in the U.S. who have digital cable), so I decided to check it out.

After two full episodes I'm still not sure what to make of this series, as it seems to want to be pulling in several different directions, but I also get the impression that these two episodes are just the intro and I haven't seen the real series yet. So what is it like over the long haul? I'm guessing a supernatural comedy-drama, but it also looks like it could just be a moe/lolicon fetish piece, too.

Can someone who's seen more give me an idea of what to expect, so I know whether or not to pursue this further when the DVD comes out the end of August? I'm not terribly impressed with the art so far (much too obviously digital).

Oh, and for anyone that cares, Monica Rial is voicing Hazuki/Luna.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:52 pm Reply with quote
Key wrote:

After two full episodes I'm still not sure what to make of this series, as it seems to want to be pulling in several different directions, but I also get the impression that these two episodes are just the intro and I haven't seen the real series yet. So what is it like over the long haul? I'm guessing a supernatural comedy-drama, but it also looks like it could just be a moe/lolicon fetish piece, too.


I think "supernatural comedy-drama" is a good classification. While it certainly caters to the moe/lolicon crowd, I don't think you have to be into that to enjoy the series.

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Can someone who's seen more give me an idea of what to expect, so I know whether or not to pursue this further when the DVD comes out the end of August? I'm not terribly impressed with the art so far (much too obviously digital).


If you don't like the art now, I don't think you are going to like it any more later. If you are iffy on the series now, I would rent the first volume or two before buying it. If you don't like it after about 5 or 6 episodes, then you probably aren't going to like it after 26.

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Oh, and for anyone that cares, Monica Rial is voicing Hazuki/Luna.


Seems like a good fit to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:52 pm Reply with quote
The first 2 episodes are definetely an introduction. Some episodes do have the silly "moe" comedy elements (some are even slice-of-life), but also there are rather dark arcs with the main bosses who are going after Hazuki. spoiler[For example later on, Kinkle will make an appearence, and all I'm going to say he's one of the coolest bad guys in the entire series.]

When the series does get dark and somewhat brooding, it gets DARK to a similar level like Soultaker and Petite Cossette (well this is directed by Akiyuki Shinbo who's getting a rep. on trippy visuals). I personally enjoyed this series because it gets cute and funny at one moment, and then shifts almost 180 degrees on the viewer.

And Key, were you able to make out the rest of the English cast?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:51 am Reply with quote
It was an okay series, I liked it but I didn't think it was really ountstanding or anything. They overload the cuteness sometimes and and there's some lolli elements which are distracting and detracting. The first half is kida mediocre but the second was better in terms of story, action and drama. I don't think I get Anime Selects with DISH satelite TV but if it was available on TV and not pay per view I'd probabally watch it again.

Anyway, I hope they keep the openings intact at least, they're quite ammusing. Neko Mimi modo! Laughing


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Key
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:57 am Reply with quote
Hiromi = Laura Bailey
Kouhei = Jason Leibrecht (only a couple of previous roles, but sounds an awful lot like Johnny Yong Bosch)
Seiji = Sonny Strait (Krillin in DBZ, Lupin III, Maes Hughes in FMA)
Vigo = R Bruce Eliott (probably best-known as Richard Moore in Case Closed)
Ryuuhei = Randy Tallman (only minor roles prior to this)

And it doesn't surprise me at all to hear that the same guy behind Le Portrait De Petite Cossette directed this one, too. I was, in fact, thinking about that series the whole time I watched this one.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:01 am Reply with quote
It started off moe and silly, and it should've stayed that way. I personally didn't enjoy this series much at all, and I partly fault it to the show taking itself too seriously. They decide to drop most of the funny somewhere in the middle, and pile the series with cliches, fights, and vampire hunting. The fights were pretty boring for the most part, and there were a great deal of them. Expect a great deal of the series to be just like the first half of the first episode. Plus, the male lead, Kouhei, is really dull. I dropped the series halfway though, so maybe the rest of the series becomes harmless comedy again (although I doubt it).

Hazuki is awesome though. Probably the only reason I didn't drop the series earlier.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:46 am Reply with quote
Apologies for long quotes from reviews at a certain site:
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And now, on to the animation. The big question is: How bad IS the animation? Well, in the early episodes, it is spectacular, with fluid movements, beautifully rendered backgrounds, and attractive (though heavily lolita-ish) character designs. Hazuki in particular is extremely cute in her Neko-mimi outfit. The magic in the series is on the level of Mahou Tsukai ni Taisetsu na Koto (Someday’s Dreamers), with beautiful CGI taking over for most of the spells.

Around the midpoint of the series, the animation suddenly drops to a level below that of Aishiteruze Baby, one of the hallmarks of bad animation. This occurs at the worst possible moment, during a pivotal fight between the main characters and one of the series’ villains. Instead of seeing the good, fluid fighting and magic that, up until episode 12, had been a staple of Tsukuyomi, the fighting devolves into still frame land, with (I’m not kidding) most of the fight focusing on a still frame of an unrelated portrait hanging on a wall, while the sounds of the fighting continue unabated. This is done so sloppily, that the sound doesn’t even match up with the events occurring on screen, with the sounds occurring either too early or too late.

At the same time that this is occurring, the editing style takes a noticeable nose-dive as well, probably to cover up the fact that barely half of the necessary animation was finished on schedule. Characters are “heard” fighting, while the screen shows nothing more than a painting. Then there is a shot of the characters running down a hallway to a doorway, supposedly escaping. Move to another shot of the painting, and suddenly they’re fighting again. Many scenes, especially in episode 12, are noticeably out of sequence, enough that I nearly quit the series outright.

From episode 12 to around episode 16, Moon Phase goes completely crazy with regards to still frames. Episode 13 and 14 barely move at all, preferring excruciatingly long panning shots of still frames, and often times frames recognizable from previous episodes.

The animation perks back up in the final episodes, up until yet another pivotal fight in episode 24. Yet again, the screen focuses on a painting or a random still frame, while the sounds of fighting and yelling continue, implying that there is some incredible ass-beating going on, which would be visible if only the camera would stop panning over this irrelevant staircase! The animation horrors end with a scene in episode 24 where it is quite obvious the animators skipped a couple of steps in the animation process. A couple of characters are interacting, but the polish has not been applied, leaving their movements fluid, but jerky, looking like a bad rough draft.

I am a fan of vampires, and as such, it takes an awful lot of mistakes before a vampire movie or series stops working for me. Moon Phase while it has some good dramatic moments, suffers from lackluster comedy, and animation that all but destroys the series’ flow, ruining some of the most pivotal moments with poor editing and badly timed still frames. If Tsukuyomi’s story was as strong as Aishiteruze Baby’s, the poor animation would not have been such a detriment. Sadly, Tsukuyomi –Moon Phase- has more style than substance. I would recommend this series only to the most die-hard vampire fans. If you’re not a fan of vampires, however, stay away. Far far away.
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Moon Phase really sticks to the run-of-the-mill formula for Anime as it does from one primary villain to the next, with a couple of humor driven episodes driven in-between. However, the story takes a real shot out into left field at the latter half of the 10s and never comes back. Massive story gaps leave you scratching your head and various incomplete animated fight scenes cannot help but leave a bitter taste in your mouth.

By the time the series concludes you wind up with a massive amount of questions that will forever go unanswered, for at Episode 25 it's quite obvious the series is pulled and driven to cancellation before any story elements could even be completed. So in the end, you can not help but feel like this anime just did a number of on you, as it attempted to drive humor, drama, and the ever-so-mundane use of the typical vampire mythos all topped with a big pair of white fluffy NekoMimi Cat Ears down your throat.
A few months ago, a friend of mine Wink gave me a disc with some episodes of Moon Phase on it along with some other series, and I took a look at the first episode. The neko-mimi schtick was cute, but I wasn't too sure about the series. So, I sought out these reviews, and decided that MP wasn't really worth my harddrive space or my time, even for free.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:07 am Reply with quote
I saw the first episode of the series... didn't really like it. Like Frentymon, I didn't really enjoy the cliched fights that were present in the episode. If it would strictly stick to comedy (like Pani Poni Dash! does such a great job of) then I may have watched more. I just dislike it when comedy series attempts to add some kind of serious plot into it (thinks of the last episode of Dokuro-chan).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:24 am Reply with quote
Yo Zalis! That comment about the "still-frame" fight scenes, that was due to budgeting problems. Director Shinbo and SHAFT really went back to fix those up for the DVD version (and I assume FUNimation got that). Here's the comparison of the broadcast version and the DVD version of episode 12 (warning may be spoilerific):

http://anime.nekomimi.se/tsuku12/

Hell, there were LOTS of touch-ups and add-ons in the DVD version. I wished I knew where the link for episode 8 went. Mad

This is one reason I'm buying the DVDs for this series and trashing my fansubs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:56 am Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
Yo Zalis! That comment about the "still-frame" fight scenes, that was due to budgeting problems. Director Shinbo and SHAFT really went back to fix those up for the DVD version (and I assume FUNimation got that). Here's the comparison of the broadcast version and the DVD version of episode 12 (warning may be spoilerific):

http://anime.nekomimi.se/tsuku12/

Hell, there were LOTS of touch-ups and add-ons in the DVD version. I wished I knew where the link for episode 8 went. Mad

This is one reason I'm buying the DVDs for this series and trashing my fansubs.
Hmm, interesting, I never knew that they went back to redo those scenes. I'll have to read the DVD reviews and see what they say. Of course, we all know what happens when we assume things spoiler[we make an a$s of u and me, that is]...I hate to be cynical on this, but it sure would put a dent in reverse importation if the studio were to give the American suckers the inferior TV versions for the R1 DVDs. Negima, another August Funimation release, had a few things redone for the R2 DVDs, though I think it was just adding a few more panty shots Evil or Very Mad , so I'll have to compare and contrast that one as well.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:13 am Reply with quote
frentymon wrote:
Plus, the male lead, Kouhei, is really dull. I dropped the series halfway though, so maybe the rest of the series becomes harmless comedy again (although I doubt it).



Kouhei does get some significant development when spoiler[he and Hazuki moved to the mountains after their house got burned down. During that time Kouhei decided to do some training in order to learn the techniques similar to what Seiji and Gramps has. That development becomes very important especially once the gang faces off the final boss battle.

After that's done the usual comedy stuff does appear in episode 25 when Art lives with the gang. There's also another comedy episode in episode 26, but that's a DVD-only episode of which I haven't seen yet.]


And Key, sorry to ask you again, but did the ED sequence show the still image of Hazuki, or did they use the "trippy, Soultaker-esque" sequence?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:54 am Reply with quote
darkchibi07 wrote:
And Key, sorry to ask you again, but did the ED sequence show the still image of Hazuki, or did they use the "trippy, Soultaker-esque" sequence?


The first episode has the still image closer. The second episode doesn't, but I had the impression that one was the exception.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:09 pm Reply with quote
Even though the first couple of episodes are not really that interesting, I think the point was to seem cute and create some sort of an introduction.

And what Zalis116's quoted review said about the frames, is indeed true. A lot of the fighting scenes just do not move, and are focused on a single picture as the reviewer had said. I really don't understand why someone would ruin an anime that much?

Anyways, the dramatic scenes pick the series up and make it slightly worthwhile to watch. It gets interesting to see the relationship and bond between Hazuki and Kouhei get more meaningful. Also, seeing the mysterious abilities of Kouhei unveil to a point where one may become slightly cautious, kept me watching until the end.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:31 pm Reply with quote
Personally... I thought the first two episodes were the best episodes of the series. They were the most typical 'vampire'-esque I've seen to date... and then... it turned into a romance/drama/mystery and dropped a good 3 notches in my book.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:02 pm Reply with quote
The first couple episodes are a about what to expect through the series, although the mood of the series seems to jump around a little, to a bit more comedic with less action for a few episodes until Kinkel arrives, then less comedy (and the infamously badly done fight scenes) until that arc ends, then back to a little more comedic, then a little bit more action at the end without really decreasing the silly comedy.

Also, the release date's been pushed back to October 17. This makes me sad.
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