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oahT
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Gunslinger Girl 3 was out June 2005, no volume 4 yet.
Yotsuba&! 3 was out October 2005, no volume 4 yet. It's been six months since I've been waiting for Yotsuba 4. Is that normal? I tried checking out all the manga-selling sites I can find, and still no Yotsuba 4 (or GG) release date. The end of Volume 3 said "...to be continued." And unless the day they wrote that was Opposite Day, I need some answers. Also, the ADV Manga site hasn't been updated since 09/2004. 
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Kagemusha
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What's this, the 24th "What the hell is wrong with ADV" thread? Anyways, ADV manga essentially shot themselves in the foot their first year or so by copying Tokyopop's strategy of quantity over quality, except most of ADV's titles were even lower in quality and weren't concentrated in popular genres. Aside from a couple of hits, most titles flopped and were subsiquently cancelled. Right now they're trying to get back on their feet, but ADV manga's future is certianly in question for the time being.
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HitokiriShadow
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Yotsuba& volume 4 will probably come out eventually as it was still being continued after they stopped almost everything else. They are probably just waiting for the Japanese manga to get farther.
Sadly, Gunslinger Girl volume 4 doesn't look like it will ever be released. What frustrates me the most about the whole thing is that ADV never even bothered to say anything and just stopped. And they stopped updating their website long before they stopped releasing their manga. Seriously, is it that hard to make a statement or press release or at least update their website? |
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milcor1
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I think I read a statement from them saying that they would retreat from the manga market until they had a better business plan to go back in or something.
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darkhunter
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I'm pretty sure they mention it at one of the con. It was mention that they would scare back their manga line, so it's pretty much implied. To say straight out on their website that they would no longer release such and such title would bring in a lot more bad press. |
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Kagemusha
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That was actually Rajin, and I think it's pretty clear now that they won't be coming back into the market. Unlike Rajin, ADV acctually has the money (from DVDs) to survive. |
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apple pro
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Remember in the last thread I said that ADV disservices it's customers by not updating their site with official information? Well here's proof.
You can link up as many urls to outside websites and even ANN but the average manga lover out there has no idea that ADV is as unprofessional as it gets. I kind of am interested in Yotsuba and Cromartie HS, but ADV does not get even one penny from me. |
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Aromatic Grass
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There are only three series I'm concerned about: Aria (and that would be nice if they acquired Aqua), Peacemaker Kurogane (it would also be nice if they acquired Peacemaker), and Yotsuba&!
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apple pro
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Aria is already on hiatus after volume 3. Why the hell would you want them to get "Aqua"? ADV = where manga licenses go to die |
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Kagemusha
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So it was you who started that moronic "ADV hates manga" months back. I don't want to start it up again considering you never actually "got" any of the points people made against your argument, but I will say that the only diffrence between ADV and Viz is that Viz succeeded with their manga line. Same exact attitude towards customer's for both companies. |
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apple pro
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I heard the arguments and I disagree. The existence of this thread proves my point. ADV should update their website with current info and stop producing new manga series and concentrate on anime.
The Gunslinger Girl, Yotsuba and Peacemaker Kurogane fans that have been screwed over freshly in 2005 will agree with me. Why support a company that is unprofessional and lacks business sense? Also, don't compare ADV and Viz. Viz was trailing Tokyo Pop in 03/04 and they caught up and surpassed them by learning from their mistakes, shrewd business aliances and listening to fans. ADV STILL has not updated their site from 2004. Pathetic. |
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apple pro
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and another thing. you or somebody else will rebuttal my post and then a month or two later, ANOTHER poor manga reader will start yet another "What's up with ADV?" thread.
go bend over for ADV, I don't give a damn |
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darkhunter
Posts: 2992 Location: Los Angelas |
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Again, you're looking at it the wrong way---it's not all about the fans. If more "fans" were buying these title, they would continue to release it like they did with FMP, but that's not the case. Fans wasn't buying their title when they were release. You have to compromise on the "business" side which is to make money and the "fandom" which is pleasing the fan. Unlike Viz, ADV release too many bad title that didn't sell as well so they can't continue to release title that sold poorly. Viz & TP can afford to continue to release slow seller because their other title are making up for it. Viz and tokyopop has cancle title before and they have never said anything about it on their website also. It's just bad a business move, anybody with half a brain should know that. If you ask them directly, they will tell you the status. And it's especially bad when you're trying to remodel your business. ADV made some bad marketing choices, and now they're paying for it. But from what you're saying, ADV arn't release the title because they want to screw the manga fan over. Last edited by darkhunter on Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:53 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Kagemusha
Posts: 2783 Location: Boston |
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If I recall correctly, the point of your argument was to not support ADV manga at all. Great way of getting them to continue a series you love. If you had done some research, you'd know Viz has cancelled many series without acknowleging fans at all. Unless a title is shonen or shojo they don't even bother putting it on their website until months after a release, sometimes years. How about when they started releasing Vagabond to monthly and didn't bother announcing it (as they did with Rurouni Kenshin), then didn't bother posting that is was on hiatus in Japan? DId they bother letting fans know they they would no longer release No.5? Or Spriggan? Or a slew of other titles? The fact is that ADV isn't all that unique in their unproffesional approach. If Shogakukuan and Sheisha didn't merge and Viz got it's hands on Shonen Jump, I doubt they'd be in the position they are today. |
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apple pro
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I agree with you that the "Big 3" manga companies here are not perfect — however, their mistakes are not nearly as blatant as that of ADV.
You mention a couple of titles that were cancelled, but do you hear clamoring for those titles? I never heard of them. ADV continues to acquire new licenses and then not fulfill the fan's expectations with a release schedule similar to the "Big 3". NOw it it was me — I'd want the Big 3 to acquire my fav title so that I can have more of a chance of success because ADV has a bad track record. _____ Then there's the argument of "ADV is a business not a fan's personal manga scanlator" argument. ADV is supposed to serve me as a customer, if they cannot find a way to do it profitably — then they should stop it. You're trying to take an objective look at ADV, the business... but I think that's the wrong way to go. If you cut them breaks they'll never learn. (In fact it's been 3 years and they still haven't learned) |
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