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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 3:28 pm Reply with quote
okay to my shame I'll amit I just saw a downloaded version, a friend DL'ed it and wanted to show me.

does anyone know why it is so rife with errors? Was Square involved in its creation or just in characters and locale?

I mean lets see:-

Elena is a turk
Sephiroth jumps by himself rather than being thrown off
Tifa's father dies outside the reactor
It looks like Zack get's shot in the back of the truck rather than on the cliff ouside Midgar

and while yes we dont know for sure how many Turks there were at this point they are never mentioned in the game itself and seeing as Elena only got in because a 'space' opened up after Reno's failure how come there are more of them before that event even happened, surely there would have been spaces with or without Reno failing?

anyway...any of you seen it?
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DarkTenshi90



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:44 pm Reply with quote
When I watched the OVA, I too noticed these errors. However, I think this was to save money or somehow fit the OVA into 24 minutes. I'm not sure if that's right, but that's what I think it is. Maybe someone can tell you a more logical answer.

Also, keep in mind that more Turks were added for the cell phone game in Japan, seeing as there literally is a ton now Anime dazed. I dunno why they added Elena, though.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 4:53 pm Reply with quote
I can understand wanting to save money but I dont see how some of them achieve this.

for example it surely would have been far faster(ergo cheaper) to just stick with cloud throwing Sephiroth off the end of the sword after stabbing him rather than stabbing him, Cloud stumbling around and then Sephiroth jumping off.

must have been an extra 3 or so seconds there...
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Berselius



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:01 pm Reply with quote
Well I thought that last gunshot to Zack in the truck fit with the game. Seeing Zack take on ALL those soldiers in Last Order and then to think that three from the game killed him -_-'. I honestly saw it as Zack pushing Cloud out of the bullets path and taking the shot himself, leaving him with a moderate to critical wound. To me, this explains how he was weak enough later to be killed so easily. But yeah, the rest of the stuff that changed is kinda weird.
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liquidsolid



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:56 am Reply with quote
Wow i never knew that there was an FF7 OAV. Cool!

hentai4me wrote:
okay to my shame I'll amit I just saw a downloaded version


Whats wrong with that? I only see downloaded versions cause i dont get DVD's for sale.

hentai4me wrote:

I mean lets see:-

Elena is a turk


Does this happen before the events in the game cause Elena is a turk in the game.

hentai4me wrote:

anyway...any of you seen it?


I've not seen it sadly. I'll see it soon though.
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hentai4me



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:44 am Reply with quote
liquidsolid wrote:
Wow i never knew that there was an FF7 OAV. Cool!

hentai4me wrote:
okay to my shame I'll amit I just saw a downloaded version


Whats wrong with that? I only see downloaded versions cause i don't get DVD's for sale.

hentai4me wrote:

I mean lets see:-

Elena is a turk


Does this happen before the events in the game cause Elena is a turk in the game.

hentai4me wrote:

anyway...any of you seen it?


I've not seen it sadly. I'll see it soon though.


well its illegal to DLoad these things so yes I am ashamed.

and yes Elena is a Turk in the game...but only AFTER Reno gets beaten on the sector 7 slum pillar. When you first meet her in the Mithril Mine she says she only got in because of what you did to Reno.
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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:24 am Reply with quote
I saw it, downloaded it about a week ago, I didn't notice any inconsistencies, but then again it was ages ago when I played the game, so I cant remember all the details that well, so I'm probably wrong.
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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:26 am Reply with quote
hentai4me wrote:
and while yes we don't know for sure how many Turks there were at this point they are never mentioned in the game itself and seeing as Elena only got in because a 'space' opened up after Reno's failure how come there are more of them before that event even happened, surely there would have been spaces with or without Reno failing?


We dont know how many Turks there were at any point during the game either - I mean, surely they dont have the whole agency out lookin for Avalanche, at least not after it was mostly wiped out in Sector 7 Anime smile

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Well I thought that last gunshot to Zack in the truck fit with the game. Seeing Zack take on ALL those soldiers in Last Order and then to think that three from the game killed him -_-'. I honestly saw it as Zack pushing Cloud out of the bullets path and taking the shot himself, leaving him with a moderate to critical wound. To me, this explains how he was weak enough later to be killed so easily.


Same
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IchigoK90



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:58 pm Reply with quote
Ok first of all the only way you can view Final Fantasy VII: Last Order is via downloaded fansub. There is another way via bootlegged but that involves downloading the material so yeah.

I don't see how extending some of the scenes counts as saving money to you people but to me that means trying to drag it out to make more money. As for Zack being shot in the back on the truck that doesn't necessarily mean that he is dead or defeated. As stated before it could mean that was the reason why he was defeated by those 3 soldiers so that point is clearly understandable and logical.

Anyhow in anime that are part of a bigger story there are always gonna be plot holes or adjustments from the original story and they are either changed and altered to fit what the director of the anime sees fit. Square-Enix may have been part of this but the ways the scenes go from the get-go are up to the director and his vision....so basically unless this was the director for the game you probably shouldn't have expected a complete redo in the anime version for those scenes.

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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:30 am Reply with quote
IchigoK90 wrote:
As for Zack being shot in the back on the truck that doesn't necessarily mean that he is dead or defeated.


It LOOKED like he was shot in the head... Ill have to watch it again.
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Assassin_



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:32 am Reply with quote
I finally watched Advent Children, yesterday. A few things I wasnt overly fond of - I thought the way they introduced Yuffie/Cid/Nanaki seemed very random, and I thought Kadajs "transformation" should have been more gradual - but overall, it was kinda amazing Anime smile
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