Forum - View topicBleach --> Leave it just as a manga/anime!
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//Furfari1994//
 Posts: 9 Location: Toronto, Ontario |
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Hello to everyone a part of the animenewsnetwork.com community. I've just recently heard that Warner Brothers are attempting 2 claim the rights of Bleach in order to make a live action hollywood movie. My question : WHY?
If turning anime/manga series into somthing its not is new to some of the viewers that are currently reading what I am typing, lets just say it hasn't ever been a positive thing in the eyes of many fans. For ex: look at one of the most recent anime series that has been turned into a hollywood movie. This would be Dragonball Evolution. This movie couldnt even make the characters look similar. Even their main character Goku...way off! they couldnt even make the name right.... The series is called Dragonball. Why add the "evolution" .....seriously. lol Popular anime and manga such as bleach and naruto for instance, should be kept as an anime and manga. EVEN Bleach's creater Tite Kubo had said in an interview several years ago that he wouldn't allow Bleach to turn into a live action movie because he chose Bleach to be a manga. He said if he wanted it to be a movie, he wouldnt have made it a manga. In conclusion, there are so many anime and manga fans not only in japan, but in all other countries around the world as well. Each individual is a fan for a reason. It is because they enjoy what they are reading/watching. Making a movie would be too controversial. #1 Too many people would dislike the cast for ex. Most likely, they wont look like the anime characters. #2 The writers of the movie would screw around with the storyline of the anime. YOU CANT include over 300+ episodes of Bleach into one movie. OR even one season. The first season is what, around 20 episodes i believe? Thats around 10 hours maybe less, of Bleach anime. How can you fit all the storyline, and emotions of all the characters into one movie? The answer is, you simply cant. The characters are too complex to just simplify and mash everything together into one film. So if you are a fan who agrees with me, please comment just to show that you beleive this live action movie is most likely, not the greatest idea. (in my personal opinion) you don't have to write much, but with support of many i beleive that the fans have a voice. Thank you for having the time 2 read this. Animenewsnetwork.com is a very helpful site and a place where all fans of anime and manga can come to. I hope my voice can reach all of you. Again, thanks. Last edited by //Furfari1994// on Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:22 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Brent Allison
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The best negative commentary about a product of the entertainment industry is not spending money on the product, and perhaps notifying the product's producers that you're not spending money on that product, and telling them why not. Otherwise, far be it from me to question the joy of beginning a thread to complain about something on the Internet.
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//Furfari1994//
Posts: 9 Location: Toronto, Ontario |
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hey brent, just like to say thanks for stating your opinion on my thread. : ) Not spending money on the product is a gudd idea. However, it still isnt for sure if there will be a live action movie or not. And yea, you could say i was complaining. Although my main goal was trying to inform and "convince" people who would read the thread into agreeing with me. (like if i were doing a speech) So, i was trying to be a bit more convincing by being a bit more "abrupt" or "aggressive" by means of wording my thoughts. So i do appologize if you took it the wrong way. But anyway, thanks again!
btw, if people think otherwise, (if you like the fact of having a live action movie) thats fine. Im just stating my personal opinion. Last edited by //Furfari1994// on Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:07 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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evil_kenshin
Posts: 40 Location: Australia |
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i agree with what you wrote (I also feel the same way about movies based on games 99% end up as trashy live action/ only related in name only)
but I think it was good that the recent live action movie of the avatar cartoon series was given several worst movie awards in some recent hollywood thing perhaps it will further dissuade people from trying it especially if it is made by uwe boll |
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Guardsman Bass
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I could actually see Bleach making an okay movie, although the process of development would likely turn it into a more generic "guy kills demons with a sword" film.
The Hollows would definitely have to undergo some aesthetic changes, although they could keep the masks. The current Hollows from the manga and anime would probably not look good translated to a live-action film with CGI. The Dragonball movie failed because Dragonball was always kind of silly, both in the DB and more serious power-leveling of the DBZ era. I doubt you could make a cool translation of that to live-action without it looking ridiculous. |
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Nagisa
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 Posts: 6128 Location: Atlanta-ish, Jawjuh |
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There's a perfectly simple way to make a good live-action Dragon Ball: embrace the cheese and pile more cheese on top. Deliberately make it as completely over-the-top as possible, right down to dubbing in the "whoosh!" sound effects from 60s kung-fu movies every time someone throws a punch. Dragon Ball Evolution failed because it tried to become this "hip, cool" pre-teen action franchise, which is akin to trying to turn Jackie Chan's Drunken Master movies into Degrassi Junior High. Dragon Ball's biggest asset is the fact that it's literally a big ball of cheese flying by the seat of its pants, taking its own canon with a grain of salt and not wasting one second in trying to "get serious," which is something that series like Naruto and, yes, to an extent Bleach, could learn from in my opinion. I actually gave up on both of those series a good ways in because they tried to get too dramatic for what they were, where Dragon Ball stayed light, brisk, and fun all the way through (so long as we conveniently ignore GT, but its canon status is somewhat dubious anyhow). Conversely, the fact that Bleach does try to shoehorn "srs bsns" into the loud, bombastic, shounen beat-'em-up genre gives it a much better chance at a good live-action adaptation than Dragon Ball. Hollywood struggles to make good cheese (they'll land an occasional gem like 300, but for one of those there's at least twenty like that godawful Clash of the Titans remake), but they've developed quite a knack for the violent teen angst movie lately. |
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rojse
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But. . . there's money to be made. And we all get a shitty anime-adapted movie to mock and deride. Everyone wins.
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SecretAgent94
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It sux I know. Hollywood is mercilessly raping our childhood memories and our beautiful art that is anime; one flop at a time.
I don't know what I will do when they get their greedy hands on Fullmetal Alchemist or Death Note. |
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Ohoni
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They really could make something out of the Bleach franchise in live action, because it can basically be turned into a samurai movie with maybe some horror elements, both of which are fairly popular. I don't think it'd be a good idea to try and capture everything about Bleach into one movie, if I were writing it I'd just do the pre-Soul Society arc, where it's all about learning his abilities, gaining his human friends, and with a final showdown against Gran Fisher, but roll that fight in with the "Hollow invasion" element so that all the characters are doing stuff.
Keep the general tone darker and moodier than the original (but with the human too, of course), with some serious sword fighting battles against more humanoid Hollows, and with some seriously spooky elements where they attempt to play up the "ghostly" element more than the "monster" element. At the end of the movie, after the credits, they can do a "Samuel L. Fury" segment with Renji and Byakuya in the foreground, spying on Ichigo and talking about how they're going to take him out. If the first movie does well, they could make a very compressed version of the Soul Society arc as a second film, basically shortening a lot of the whinging and goofy elements and keeping it to the core narrative, of him getting beat down, regaining his powers/shikai, entering SS (remove the whole cannonball element and Ganju), Aizen's murder mystery, the fight with Kenpachi (or Renji, either would work for an act 2 fight scene, but both would be excessive), and then an act 3 battle that includes the Uryuu/Kurotsuchi fight (maybe Orihime could fight Nemu just to give her some action), the Chad/Kyoraku fight, and the Yoruichi/Soifong fights as undercards), with the Ichigo bankai battles and finale at the end, leading into a third film that compresses the bullet points of the Heuco Mondo arc up through the big finale. Of course most of the other captains would be reduced to cameos, like many of the X-Men in the first X-Men movie were. |
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Han Solo
 Posts: 57 Location: Great Britain |
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Well at least if you're dissapointed with adaptations you can always go back to watching the anime to feel better.
Bleach, among other anime, are not well known among the majority of people and Hollywood tends to take liberties and meddle with the storylines. Yeaheveryone's heard of Superman and aware of the concept yet theres only a small number of people who've heard of bleach, and a smaller people who watch it. Don't believe me? Walk into any public place and ask people if they've heard of Bleach and Superman, they'd all say Superman, Batman etc. |
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evil_kenshin
Posts: 40 Location: Australia |
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to late, atleast in regards to death note; hollywood is already planning to make a death note movie (perhaps copying the japanese live action ones) |
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Guardsman Bass
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The problem lies in trying to sell that to a Hollywood studio, who will have to pay millions in marketing to get it out there on top of whatever it pays to develop it. I like cheesy kung fu movies, but without drastic changes DBZ will require some special effects, and those cost good money (unless you do made-for-tv movie effects, which will get you laughed out of the theater). It's easier to do cheese like that in animated form, where certain things (such as all the energy blasts and kamehameha waves) don't look as ridiculous as they'd look in real life.
Death Note is one of those manga/animes that are practically dying to be made into a live-action film. You could likely do it on a fairly low budget, and even more so if you cut out Ryuuk. Fullmetal Alchemist would be pretty cool . . . as a live-action television show. The problem, of course, would be that it would have two particular strikes against it: 1. It's a relatively unknown quantity in terms of category of show, as well as in general (although it's popular for a manga/anime in the US). Meaning that it's not a procedural, a drama, etc. 2. It would likely be expensive, and not just because of the special effects involved in showing alchemy. FMA is set in a kind of alternative 1920s-European setting, and so you'd need period costumes, period decorations, etc. That's usually what kills most live-action science fiction shows in the US. The per-episode costs are high, and the ratings only modest. |
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ikillchicken
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Uh...we are talking about Dragonball Z and/or Bleach here right? |
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evil_kenshin
Posts: 40 Location: Australia |
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it most likely would suffer the same fate as the live action avatar did; just get seen as a bad movie. its not the source materials fault, but the way of hollywood. |
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