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GiriOni
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P4 as a worst case scenario? P4 has one of the best dub's of all time. Atlus knows how to hire good voice actors, and the anime shines brightly for being both fitting and creative. Heck I PREFER the DUB to the sub in this case. (owns the blu-ray version)
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guildmaster
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10 months to produce a single 22 min anime episode?
What are you smoking????? 
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walw6pK4Alo
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That's from script to final edit, I'm assuming. Not 10 months of animation. |
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Chagen46
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That's not surprising. At all. Animation is made by drawing literally thousands of pictures and stringing them together to give the illusion of motion. It takes 9 months to make one single Simpsons episode. |
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Kikaioh
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I already pitched in for Creamy Mami on AnimeSols.
 Though I would really love for AnimeSols to succeed (as a concept, at least)... even I have to admit, the execution does seem a bit wonky.  Having all the different series running together almost makes it like they're competing against each other for funding, and it's just not in my pocketbook to drop that much cash for that many series all at once.
I'm also really puzzled by their pricing model. A $40 donation for Creamy Mami gets you a boxed set --- for just the first 13 episodes? If you consider that Creamy Mami is 52 episodes long, that means you'll eventually plunk down $160 to own the whole series. That just seems excessive --- I mean, I was recently able to pick up Discotek Media's release of Kyatto Ninden Teyandee for $42, and that was 54 episodes long. I have to wonder what drove the folks behind Anime Sols to go with that particular pricing model, because I think it's going to drive even more funders away from the project. |
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Greed1914
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I didn't know that the anime had the same reverse importation fears applied to it that P4A had. Then again, I haven't felt terribly inclined to get the anime since I feel like I get everything I could want out of P4G, so I didn't really do much research on it either. The timing on the question is also a bit coincidental since I've been replaying P4G lately. |
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BonnKansan
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To Answerfan Alex: the shows don't stream just one day a week each, they're all available anytime after they're uploaded. The schedule is just for what days each week a new episode is added.
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BonnKansan
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The prices were chosen to be able to cover the royalty and production costs for a 1000 DVD print run with ~500 orders. And for what it's worth, the royalty payment is 70% of the goal, and goes directly to the people who made the show when the disks are printed. For that Kyatto Ninden Teyandee release, Discotek either got a much better deal on the royalties they need to pay Tatsunoko, or they expect it to be subsidized by Samurai Pizza Cats sales, or both. Nozomi's Rose of Versailles sets, costing $50 MSRP for 20 episodes, is really more representative of a stand-alone release of a classic show. |
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Aizen-chan
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*Cries at being the only person here old enough to remember the Simpsons when they were part of The Tracey Ullman Show*
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BonnKansan
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There, there, you're not the only one, really! |
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Kikaioh
Posts: 1205 Location: Antarctica |
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Hey thanks for the explanation, that does give a better picture for what's going on behind their production model. And wow, 70% sure is a sizable amount for royalties, I guess it's good to see so much of the funding going back to the original creators, though it really seems to make it more difficult for the sets to be affordably priced, given the age of the content. I'd figure older series would run less expensive, but I guess it must be an extremely niche market, or it's driven by high expectations from the original companies. Whatever the case, I hope Anime Sols meets goal-funding success in the future (especially for Creamy Mami!  ). I'd really, really love to see more classic anime release on the US market (and wind up on my DVD shelves ).
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Macron One
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I'm also really rooting for Anime Sols to be successful, particularly because i would love to see many old school shoujo series get a region 1 DVD release. Creamy Mami is definitely one of the great, defining mahou shoujo series, and if it manages to secure sufficient funding, then that could potentially open the door for many similar titles (Pelsia?, Pastel Yumi?, Minky Momo?, Akazukin ChaCha?). As someone from outside of the US, it's certainly rather frustrating not being able to contribute to this cause, though i understand the reasoning. If a release does get off the ground and surplus copies find their way to Rightstuf or other online shops , i'll make sure to purchase 4 copies of each Creamy Mami set, though.
Looking at the amount of money that has thusfar been pledged for Anime Sols' initial line-up of titles, it however does seem rather disappointing so far. Sure, there's plenty of time left for people to pledge, but kickstarter-style projects tend to get most of their pledges during the first few days and towards the very end of the timer running down. Currently, only Creamy Mami has managed to reach over 15% of the target amount. Even if there's a considerable rallying of fan interest during the next 2 months, i'd be impressed if anything other than Creamy Mami and Black Jack TV actually reaches the goal. |
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dtm42
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Anime isn't South Park where they can crap out a topical episode in literally three days (which they have done). For Anime, it takes at least a month or two if the staff half-arse it, but then the quality will be atrocious. Or they could take animators off latter episodes to work on the earlier ones, but then that just moves the problem to the latter episodes which will in turn have to be rushed. I think you misunderstand the situation. Multiple episodes can be and are worked on at the same time. Episodes are not made one at a time, otherwise it would take years to make even a one-cour series. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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Eh, Aniplex's releases cannot be purchased direct from Amazon, unless you count the marketplace sellers. Sometimes you can end up with deals, but if you're after an Aniplex product, RightStuf is pretty much the only place to go OTHER than Aniplex's website itself. I don't know why it is, but that's the way it goes. I'm surprised Aniplex didn't nab the P4 anime for themselves, allowing it to go straight to Sentai Filmworks. Maybe Atlus had something to do with it. Aniplex was clearly very fearful of reverse importation so much, they pulled the Japanese language track from the Blu-rays. If that's not fearful, I don't know what is. |
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Alan45
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Logically, since a one cour series lasts only three months, at the end of the third month, they should be working on all 12 episodes at the same time. Any significant delay will mess up the whole schedule. This explains some of the crippled episodes we have heard about.
I've always assumed that the typical 22 minute length (for a half hour broadcast) is the maximum length that is practical for a normal TV episode. The few shows with longer episodes must have had an enormous lead time. |
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